I agree with no salt and 50% water change.

Albie, personally I will not add unknown Koi to my pond. I am aware you had fatalities, even so the risk is big and small Koi are more susceptible to the pond conditions.

When I originally suggested kamikaze Koi I hoped you had a donkey or two from your own stock that you can take a change with.

I have 2 in my collection, I call them "panvis" that have been doing all the companion work in my Qt and will the the first in my new pond.

Enige geluk so ver, of lyk dit of koi kersfees nog in QT gaan wees? Hoop van harte dat die probleme nou op 'n end is

Well, I dont know.

Put two in on Friday, a small one and a 40 cm one. Small one died within 24 h, so I removed the big one.

Yesterday, I decided to put the big one back again. I bypassed the waterfall and 24h later, the big one is still alive.

Let's see what happens this week. Departing today

Hi Albie

What is the latest state on the pond and did you found out what killed the fish?

Well, at least I,m progressing/winning??

I bypassed the waterfall last week and the Bekko (poor quality) survived. I added another one yesterday, turned on the waterfall- this morning, both are fine. I think I might add another one today. I'm again away this week, but then home for a month when the big transfer will happen.

Luckily the bio media is still fine, but some are loose and I would like to put them in bags. Does anyone know where I can buy some of those lemon bags?

Albie you can try Fruit and Vegs. In Bloem they sell it at about R1 a bag or maybe you will be lucky and get it free of charge



Fruit and Veg City: Shop 1 – Cnr of Veld and Glen road, Glen Marias. Tel 972 1350



You can also try Makro:



16 Herman Road, Germiston, 086 030 4999

I went to the fruit and veg there by greenstone and they had nothing - however I have been told that makro is the best place to buy

I get mine from Macro on a 30 m roll. Quite cheap.

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Still not at home, but three fish have survived in the new pond- two for one week and the other one for two weeks.

Then I got the news from my very upset domestic helper that a "big yellow fish" has died in the portapool. Hopefully it is not my newish yellow ogon.

I decided to take the chance and my daughter transferred all the fish from the portapool to the new pond. My sand filter and UV light is running to that pond, but the bio filters are still connected to the portapool. I will change everything tomorrow afternoon, so that the bio filters are connected to the main pool.

My question now is- what about nitrite and ammonia spikes? Should I only test for those two now and how often?

are you going to transfer the current porta pool water into the new pond.......I would imagine that to be a good idea at the same time of transfer.......would ease the transfer for them.

Yes, with the water change last week, I added about a third of the water to the pond. I'm just not sure today, because the fish has died, but they have been in confinement for so long that one could have expected more fatalities.

I will try to connect the biofilters this afternoon.

And the new fish?

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I get mine from Macro on a 30 m roll. Quite cheap.

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Fruit and veg in PTa don't have nor do Makro ;(

What do they actually call these bags? Mesh bags or what?

Orange bags.......or onion bags as thats what they usually pack them with.

I recently bought bags (packed in 100's) from Transvaal Bag Company in Pretoria @ R75 per 100. They're about 1 km south of the Pretoria Fresh Produce market in DF Malan Drive. Tel 012 3273756. Check your local Yellow Pages under heading "Bags".

This is the Portapool after 4 months, and exceot for one, all survived- just with my biofilters connected, some extra O2 and water from the filters falling into the pool.

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All fish back, no fatalities so far!

show us the pond with the fish in please.

A few pictures, but I'm still trying to get all the filters in place. At least I have seen some algae started to grow on the sides. Will post pictures of my "complicated" filtration system later.

After all the hassle, the pond looks the same, just deeper!!

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I need advice here-

Water enters the pond via the Venturi and the waterfall and exists through two low pressure pumps and a top drain. The entering points and exit points are too close together. I have used a pipe half water half air in the past to separate the streams, but any advice will be appreciated.

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Some of my fish in the rebuilt pond:

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Well done Albie. The nightmare paid off. Looking good.

Albie moet asseblief nie daai kos voer nie, dis sommer k@k.

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Albie moet asseblief nie daai kos voer nie, dis sommer k@k.

Amen !

Albie and I are going halvies on a 20kg bag of shogun from Chris Neaves......just need to go collect which will be this weekend or early next week!!!

Hope this makes you feel better now

Cliff,

Not really, stopped using it. Using AquaNutro.

In my opinion Shogun makes Koi develops a “pot-belly”.

Yes, I did mention it to Chris.