Got this fish about 2 years ago, it was a nice heisei nishiki, then it lost all its colour, what would you call it now? Worthless? lol

chris coomber wrote:

Got this fish about 2 years ago, it was a nice heisei nishiki, then it lost all its colour, what would you call it now? Worthless? lol

I would call it my beloved pet!
Now it is a shiro muji...It happens all the time ...it is genes mostly...

I was thinking maybe its a doitsu purachina because its metallic, but then there's the dark markings in its head, and the white isn't pure white, slightly more platinum. Its the most active fish in my pond and at feeding time it goes crazy, knocking any othe koi, even bigger ones, out of the way to get to the food. So quite a character.

chris coomber wrote:

I was thinking maybe its a doitsu purachina because its metallic, but then there's the dark markings in its head, and the white isn't pure white, slightly more platinum. Its the most active fish in my pond and at feeding time it goes crazy, knocking any othe koi, even bigger ones, out of the way to get to the food. So quite a character.

Yes then U can be right...
Every Koi has a different character...all endearing them selves in different way...Going to feed my babies now.

looks like a gin kikokuryu

A sanke who looses it's hi becomes a Shiro Utsuri.

This metallic Sanke (Heisei Nishiki) became a doitsu metallic Shiro Utsuri in my view because there are still some black on the fish.

The Heisei Nishiki's are so beautifull but they tend to loose their colours, even from the best breeders of the variety being Aoki and Kase.

Admin wrote:

A sanke who looses it's hi becomes a Shiro Utsuri.

This metallic Sanke (Heisei Nishiki) became a doitsu metallic Shiro Utsuri in my view because there are still some black on the fish.

Wouldn't it become a shiro bekko? Because I understand that a sanke is a fish with a kohaku's hi pattern and a bekko's stepping stone pattern....Wouldn't a showa who lost its hi turn into a shiro utsuri?

Your are right. Thanks for pointing it out.

Here is another Heisei Nishiki that lost all it's hi within in few months which I bought from Aoki:

https://koionline.forumotion.com/t878-hisei-nishiki-lost-all-it-s-hi?highlight=LOST+COLOUR

Hesei Nishiki is Sanke based will be doits metallic gin bekko without the hi.
Chris IMO this started out as Beni Kikokuryo and then just became kikokuryo when it lost hi.
Sumi shading ios from kimonryu line

I brought a beautiful Red and White Kikusui and within three months it looked just like yours, I sold it for alot less as platium doitsu.

What a disappointment it is when they start loosing their Hi...
I had few too.