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PostSubject: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeThu Mar 19, 2009 2:10 pm

Hi Al

On 1 December 2008 i spawned my 66cm Torazo female kohaku with 1 Torazo male and 1 Dainichi male.

The Torazo female was purchased from Cape Koi Aquarium and aswell as the Torazo male. The dainichi kohaku was purchased from Platinum koi.

This was my first atttempt to spawn and i think everything went off very well. The majority of the spawning turned out to full red with a few exceptions, i think that is because the parent koi was mostly full pattern. there are some Tancho's and very few patterned kohaku.

Here are some of the big ones measuring 16cm.

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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeSat Mar 21, 2009 6:01 pm

Is the photo taken just after you feed them?
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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeMon Mar 23, 2009 3:26 pm

Hi SAS

i have no idea as they are eating all the time.

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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeMon Mar 23, 2009 3:48 pm

wayneb wrote:
Hi SAS

i have no idea as they are eating all the time.

Wayne

Hi Wayne,

If the photo is taken just after feeding than i assume this is not their true body shape.

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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeMon Mar 23, 2009 4:03 pm

Hi SAS, no thats their true body shape.Smile

In January i caught them at 4cm and threw them in my big pond - two months later they are 17cm.
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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeMon Mar 23, 2009 4:24 pm

wayneb wrote:
Hi SAS, no thats their true body shape.Smile

In January i caught them at 4cm and threw them in my big pond - two months later they are 17cm.

Your other big koi didn't eat them?
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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeMon Mar 23, 2009 4:28 pm

Il try and get a new photo, they havnt had food now for a week.
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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeMon Mar 23, 2009 4:29 pm

The bigger koi get fed very well and the little ones did hide and swim in a group.
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As promised an updated photo. I think this is the best of the three...I hope i have better luck next time with the pattern.
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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeWed Mar 25, 2009 9:43 am

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As promised an updated photo. I think this is the best of the three...I hope i have better luck next time with the pattern.

Hi Wayne,

This kohaku is not that bad, i guess when the koi grow bigger the pattern will look better.

To get better pattern you need to cull those all red and all white ones in a early stage. Because those all red and all white ones will grow faster and eat the one with better pattern.

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PostSubject: Wow   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeTue Mar 31, 2009 3:26 pm

Hi Wayne,

I like your Kuhako's!!! Shocked
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Thanks Shawn, i kept the best one for myself and gave the ret of the spawning away.

Im going to try again in december..kohaku again but this time i will try and raise more of them.
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Here is a photo of one of the kohakus from this spawning. I gave it to my pel Eugen Binndel and he won 1st in Kohaku size 1 with it at the Western Cape Koi Show in 2009.

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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2010 9:45 pm

good stuff!! keep it up!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeTue Mar 30, 2010 11:59 pm

Heres a updated picture of my home bred kohaku. Image is unaltered. The kohaku is now 1yr 3 months old (You can see it in the first photo above) - thats from when it was spawned as an egg till now. Its currently 46cm long...i think that is not bad for a home bred. What do you think?

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Not show quality but fantastic growth. Well done!

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knowing how difficult the backyard breeding thing is I think its very good. Very impressed with growth. I stand under correction that 46cm at 15 months is better than many tosai will do who get here as 1y olds of 22-25cm
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Not show quality but fantastic growth. Well done!

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knowing how difficult the backyard breeding thing is I think its very good. Very impressed with growth. I stand under correction that 46cm at 15 months is better than many tosai will do who get here as 1y olds of 22-25cm

Thanks Paul and Quinton. Backyard breeding is a challenge cause you cant raise all the eggs and have to dump many of them...so you might be chucking grand champions away. The remainder that i grew on turned out mostly plain red or plain white. There where very few with pattern. Even the one i gave to Eugen that has a decent pattern does not have good Ojima. The Ojima is too big in my own opinion but it did take 1st in Size 1 last year.

Yes this particular koi does not have a good pattern but i can guarentee you that it will do well on points for colour quality and body shape. The red is very intense and the white is pure white. As you guys know i dont feed any colour enhancer. This koi took 2nd place last year at the cape show.

What is really impressing me it the growth. If you read back in the thread about the growth...3 months after it was spawned i entered it into the george show at around 18-20cm. The parent koi where spawned the 1st of December 2008.
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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeFri Sep 07, 2012 8:29 pm

I see the photos attached to this thread got lost somehow. Sad So im just updating it. Very interesting to read the comments going back a few years.

66cm Torazo Mamma
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2009 George show - The one i decided to keep, 3 Months old and 20cm
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2010 Western Cape show - Best home bred award.
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2011 Western Cape show - Best Potential Size 5 and Best Home Bred award
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2012 Western Cape show - Supreme Champion Size 7 and Best Home bred award
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PostSubject: Re: Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines   Home Bred - Torazo & Dainichi bloodlines Icon_minitimeFri Sep 07, 2012 8:45 pm

Shows you, some people don't give a fish a chance to develope.

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This fish kind of grows on you, turned out really beautiful. Well done Wayne. Hope I will breed just as good quality as you one day. Very Happy

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Thank you Miya Oki Koi (what is your name). i wish i could take credit for it but it is all about the bloodline in the end. I am simply doing the culling.

Im trying to get a photo of the brother and sister of this one, i gave them to my friend Eugen. He entered her into a koi show in 2009 and took size 1 kohaku - he has not shown her ever again. Turned out into a stunning fish and it has a excellent pattern. With this Kohaku spawning i had very few patterned kohakus.
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This is another one from the same batch that i bred. It is the female i mentioned above. I need to get a updated photo.
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Very very nice Shocked Would love to see how this fish looks like now. cyclops

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