Hi Cliff
Do you have a protein skimmer on you system?
Welcome Back Quinton!

Hey Quin, nice to see you back here bud!

Colin, I also dont get any sun in winter on my pond.......and have absolutely no foam, yet I have alge on my walls.

In summer it's the exact opposite, no alge but a bit of foam.

I dont have any foam fractionators, will probably do a diy'er when summer starts.

Mark, you think I should just leave my pond as is? I have 21 fish in my pond now, it is 30kl.

Most are babies that I got from Lionel (4) Karl (3) Costa (6)....then I have 8 which are between 40 and 58cm

The babies are all between 15 and 25cm's

Ok, that's allot of fish for the amount of water.

I'd keep the option open for a second Bakki Shower but not do it yet. Monitor the water parameters once the heavy feeding starts again - you'll soon see if the system can cope.

I'd do a protein skimmer now already. I run my skimmer 24/7 and am amazed at how much foam it produces even though the feeding is at 40% of the normal amount (my water temp is sitting at 14.1'C at the moment)

My 10c worth

Hi there Cliff ,

Like ur pond and you have a very nice collection of kois to , WOW .


Cliff did you ever think of putting in a skimmer? The one like a swimming pool ? To help with he foam?

I am not to sure if it will help? And the problem is also that you need to brake down ur pond and not to sure if you want to do that.


Regards

Hi Quinten, I do have a weir in like what you find on pools already.

I am currently getting a 2nd bakkie shower together that I want to install.

Mark, you really think 22fish in 30kl is too much? Sure if I had 22 big fish.

However 14 of those 22 are still under 25cm and the 8 bigger ones are from 40 - 60cm

When and if I get fish to around 70cm then I will keep a maximum of 10 fish in my pond.

Hi there Cliff ,

Thank you

Regards


Quinten

Cliff wrote:

Hi Quinten, I do have a weir in like what you find on pools already.

I am currently getting a 2nd bakkie shower together that I want to install.

Mark, you really think 22fish in 30kl is too much? Sure if I had 22 big fish.

However 14 of those 22 are still under 25cm and the 8 bigger ones are from 40 - 60cm

When and if I get fish to around 70cm then I will keep a maximum of 10 fish in my pond.

cliff,
why do U want to keep only 10 fish? I thought U need 1000l per fish? Am I misled?

Nelli , 1000 l per fish is a minimum, most of the serious koi keepers have 4 plus thousand l per fish.
In our one pond we have 15 to 20 thousand l/fish, and you have 3 and 4 year old fish sitting at 90 plus cms. I believe the best for most hobbyists is around 2 to 2,500 L/ fish to get good growth.
So yes the more L / Fish you can give them the better.

He he he! Costa! Then I am already overstocked in the new pond, which is 70000liters...will need to give some away... for i still want to buy some more Koi.

HI Neli, just that every time a fish doubles in size, it wastes 8 times more than it did at half it's size.

So, ideally would not want 20 big fish in a 30kl pond, also, 10 big fish would be far more noticeable that 22 small fish, so why bother with too many is my thought on it.

It's also an environment that they are stuck in 24/7, so rather try and make it as comfortable as possible I say!

Cliff wrote:

HI Neli, just that every time a fish doubles in size, it wastes 8 times more than it did at half it's size.

So, ideally would not want 20 big fish in a 30kl pond, also, 10 big fish would be far more noticeable that 22 small fish, so why bother with too many is my thought on it.

It's also an environment that they are stuck in 24/7, so rather try and make it as comfortable as possible I say!

Cliff so my limit is 35?
What will happen if I have more? My filtration is massive! Is that not a bonus?

Bought a new camera, decided to try it out last night, and I know how everyone love's pics!!

Hope you enjoy them!

more.......

Nice Cliff! Enjoy your new toy. Couple of nice fish there hey- your Shiro's are from Masaki ?

and more........

Thanks Tommy......yeah, from Masaki, the one with the least amount of sumi I had drama with a short while ago where it jumped and damaged itself, however it's all 100% now

Cliff really nice collection you have, like the Showa's to. I like the Shiro with the sumi thats still deep. Think that will be the best one of your Shiro's.

Lovely photos Cliff
The little ones are looking good in your pond
What camera did you buy

thanks....got the Canon 1000D SLR Digital Camera Starter Kit with Canon 18-55mm and Sigma 70-300mm Lenses

WOW Cliff

Some very nice pictures , then i dont want to talk about ur koi`s WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thank you for sharing this.
YOu have some very nice kois !!

Regards

Quinten

Waw! Cliff..that is so nice...
How did U make the background so dark? Did U increase your F stop to reduce the depth of field...or it was at night with flush?
What ever it is ...your photos look very good!?

Very... very nice Cliff!

Update pics on my pond taken today!











My red eared sliding loving the bamboo perch I made for him!

Continued.......

Hi Cliff
Your pond and fish looks good A couple of really nice fish in your pond, your collection starting to take shape now, well done. Wont the tortoise try to catch your fish?