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Guest Guest
| Subject: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:14 am | |
| Hi, When does someone become an alcoholic? Is it when that person needs a drink every day of his life or can’t stop drinking by himself? Any other theory? |
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Chris Maritz
Posts : 313 Reputation : 8 Join date : 2009-10-06 Location : Port Elizabeth
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:07 am | |
| When you can't control your alcohol and the alcohol controls you.
Having a drink daily is normal but you need to know when to stop drinking. |
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frans
Posts : 192 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2010-05-25 Age : 54 Location : sundowner randburg gauteng
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:09 am | |
| my siening is sodra jy begin drink want hoekom moet jy alkohol gebriuk |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:13 am | |
| Frans, ek hou van jou stelling!!!!
Chris, Om daagliks 'n drankie te geniet is te verstaande, maar ek dink sodra jy nie jou daagliks drankie kan kry nie, en dit jou pla...........dan flikker die rooi ligte! |
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Chris Maritz
Posts : 313 Reputation : 8 Join date : 2009-10-06 Location : Port Elizabeth
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:39 am | |
| Hang af wat jy bedoel met "pla"..... Voel skuldig of kry ontrekking simptome?
Mens moenie dronk word nie... Verwys na die bybel dan sal jy lees dat hulle gereeld wyn drink. Dit verwys dan daarna dat mens nie wyn moet drink in oorvloed nie & moenie die wyn toelaat om jou te beinvloed nie ie. moenie dronk word nie, want dan is jy onder die alcohol se invloed ie. alcohol beheer jou. |
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Jaco
Posts : 700 Reputation : 5 Join date : 2008-02-16 Age : 58 Location : Odendaalsrus Freestate
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:42 am | |
| Waneer jy drink omdat jy moet, nie omdat jy wil nie. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:01 pm | |
| Jaco,
ek dink jy slaan die spyker op die kop!!!
Chris,
die vraag is net; wanneer word jy deur drank beheer? Sekerlik sodra jy nie daarsonder kan klaar kom nie.
Die gevolge van drank is ook iets verskriklik................... |
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Marius Bezuidenhout
Posts : 836 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2009-01-29 Age : 58 Location : Bloemfontein but mostly somewhere else
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:23 pm | |
| Stem saam wat julle mense se. Kan wel iets byvoeg. Die kenners reken dat selfs 'n persoon wat byvoorbeeld slegs een keer 'n week of maand drink 'n soort verslawing het. Sodra dit 'n patroon ontwikkel - bv om elke Vrydag of elke 'payday' te gaan drink en dit word oor tydperk herhaal, is jy verslaaf. Hoef nie noodwendig elke dag te drink nie |
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Neville
Posts : 1457 Reputation : 1 Join date : 2010-01-17 Age : 77 Location : Krugersdorp
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:38 pm | |
| Hi
This is a very controversial l type question and there will be many replies as to when is one an alcoholic.
Me myself and many of my friends and associates are then probably alcoholic's, as we love our drink's when we socialize. Bring daai bier man. I and lots of us have been drinking socially for many many years and sir I promise you maybe to people who abstain's eyes I am an alcoholic. But I have never been off work or caused any problems while or after having had a dop.
I must say that people who abstain completely worries me, there is something wrong or they have other maybe worse vices.
Een vir die pad pu pel.Cheers.
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Jaco
Posts : 700 Reputation : 5 Join date : 2008-02-16 Age : 58 Location : Odendaalsrus Freestate
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:03 pm | |
| - Marius Bezuidenhout wrote:
- Stem saam wat julle mense se. Kan wel iets byvoeg. Die kenners reken dat selfs 'n persoon wat byvoorbeeld slegs een keer 'n week of maand drink 'n soort verslawing het. Sodra dit 'n patroon ontwikkel - bv om elke Vrydag of elke 'payday' te gaan drink en dit word oor tydperk herhaal, is jy verslaaf. Hoef nie noodwendig elke dag te drink nie
Dan is ek verslaaf aan sex !!!!! |
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Marius Bezuidenhout
Posts : 836 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2009-01-29 Age : 58 Location : Bloemfontein but mostly somewhere else
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:07 pm | |
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Cliff
Posts : 741 Reputation : 55 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 47 Location : JHB
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:10 pm | |
| Oom Neville, I would say that hardly makes for an alcoholic. I enjoy a dop when I am socializing altho will never have a dop on my own.
I played golf 2 weekends ago and one of the guys I was playing with was going on and on about how he needed a beer so badly....and this was at 7am!.......he then sent the caddy to get beers and by the time we had finished our round he had 6 beers. Then 6 double captains at the club house in the next hour. And before the round had started had coffee and splash (whiskey) at 5h30 when he woke up for the round. He even mentioned how he battled to sleep so got up for a whiskey at 2h30 that morning.
There are many a different views on what an alcoholic is, I remember from a child my dad telling me that with an alcoholic he can drink a single beer and he will be on his ear. Also think someone who can drink a whole bottle just for mos on his own without company or not in a social environment has a drinking problem.
Like oom Nev said, a bit controversial cos now we have 100 okes on the forum who think they're alcoholics.....lol |
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Chris Maritz
Posts : 313 Reputation : 8 Join date : 2009-10-06 Location : Port Elizabeth
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:22 pm | |
| Ek's saam met Jaco.... Ek kry elke jaar net op my b'day sex, so ek is verslaaf want daar's 'n patroon. |
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Neville
Posts : 1457 Reputation : 1 Join date : 2010-01-17 Age : 77 Location : Krugersdorp
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:43 pm | |
| Chris, Dit is die gevolge van drank, jy drink op jou birthday dan wil jy hierdie snaakse goed doen man. Nee wat as jy nie heeldag suip en ander pla nie dan is jy nog ok in my opinie, al raak jy lus vir n dop dis ok. Fok ek is nou so lus vir n bier ek kan vrek man, dis warm hier. Beware of the one who drinks nothing, when did he stop to drink too much. and is now afraid to touch it. Give me a guy who can handle his liqueur and I will show you a man that can handle anything. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:21 pm | |
| Ek het hierdie vraag gevra na aanleiding van 'n soort gelyke een in die nuutste Huisgenood:
Is ek 'n Alokholis? Die vrou skryf ondermeer dat sy nie meer 'n aand sonder drank kan geniet nie.
Die antwoord daarop was: "Daar is een nare, maar eenvoudige waarheid oor alkoholisme; Enigeiemand wat nie kan ophou drink wanneer hy moet nie, is 'n alkoholis, al gebeur dit net drie keer per maand of oor naweke. Binnekort sal jy nie net meer 'n geleentheidsalkoholis wees nie, maar iemand wat een keer per week, en dan een keer per dag en dan heeldag drink."
Ek het ook ondervind dat alkoholiste hewig ontken dat hulle 'n drank probleem het, en dat hulle die gebruik van drank met oorgawe verdedig. Wanneer 'n persoon eers "skelm" begin drink is dit baie ernstig!
Gewoonte soos met die meeste goed word 'n verslawing, die verslawing is die probleem!
Jaco is reg.................verslaaf is ons verslaaf..........die vraag is nou net; aan wat!? |
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Jaco
Posts : 700 Reputation : 5 Join date : 2008-02-16 Age : 58 Location : Odendaalsrus Freestate
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:30 pm | |
| - Pieter J de Villiers wrote:
- Jaco is reg.................verslaaf is ons verslaaf..........die vraag is nou net; aan wat!?
Koi, ons is verslaaf aan Koi |
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Chris Maritz
Posts : 313 Reputation : 8 Join date : 2009-10-06 Location : Port Elizabeth
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:36 pm | |
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Neville
Posts : 1457 Reputation : 1 Join date : 2010-01-17 Age : 77 Location : Krugersdorp
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:28 pm | |
| Kry n loop dop. of een vir die pad. |
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Marius Bezuidenhout
Posts : 836 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2009-01-29 Age : 58 Location : Bloemfontein but mostly somewhere else
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:08 am | |
| Johannesburg - ’n Soektog na die “lyk” van ’n vrou wat Woensdagoggend buite Nelspruit langs die pad opgemerk is, maar by die polisie se aankoms weg was, is afgelas nadat sy beskonke in ’n hospitaal gekry is.
Die grootskaalse soektog is deur die polisie, inwoners van die Renosterkop-hoewes en ’n veiligheidsmaatskappy begin toe ’n hoewebewoner se huiswerker omstreeks 07:00 afgekom het op die vrou wat sy gedink het dood is.
Die huiswerker het weggehardloop en hulp by haar werkgewer gaan soek.
By die polisie se aankoms op die toneel was die vrou nêrens te vinde nie.
Die nuus oor die verdwene “lyk” het soos ’n veldbrand deur Renosterkop getrek en baie van die inwoners het met ’n soektog begin.
Selfs lede van verskeie veiligheidsmaatskappye het aan die soektog deelgeneem.
Toe die soektog in die digte bosse langs die pad niks oplewer nie, is navraag by die lykhuise en plaaslike hospitale gedoen.
Die “lyk” is toe in die Rob Ferreira-hospitaal ontdek.
Blykbaar was die vrou net erg beskonke.
Sy het glo die vorige nag in ’n kroeg in die stad gekuier en in die vroeë oggendure besluit om huis toe te loop.
In ’n stadium het sy sowat 6 km buite die stad op die Uitkyk-pad langs die pad gaan lê en aan die slaap geraak.
Terwyl die verskrikte werker hulp gaan soek het, het ’n barmhartige Samaritaan op die vrou afgekom en haar hospitaal toe gevat.
Ao. Dawie Pretorius, polisiewoordvoerder, het bevestig die soektog is aan die gang gesit, maar later afgelas.
“Sy was veilig in die hospitaal en nie enigsins beseer nie.”
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Neville
Posts : 1457 Reputation : 1 Join date : 2010-01-17 Age : 77 Location : Krugersdorp
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:52 am | |
| Hi Marius
Dit is nogal ons vriend Colyn se wereld, wonder of hy ook gehelp het hy is darem baie still deesdae.
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Neville
Posts : 1457 Reputation : 1 Join date : 2010-01-17 Age : 77 Location : Krugersdorp
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:05 am | |
| Hi Chris, Daar is twee goed wat die manne wat drink voor moet passop. No een is iemand wat niks drink en no 2 is die los lopende dames. A REALLY BAD NIGHT I'm never drinking again. I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again. I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again. I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again I'm never drinking again NEVER EVER AGAIN |
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Marius Bezuidenhout
Posts : 836 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2009-01-29 Age : 58 Location : Bloemfontein but mostly somewhere else
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:07 am | |
| Hehe, gelukkig is payday ver so sal haar 'n mis gee |
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Neville
Posts : 1457 Reputation : 1 Join date : 2010-01-17 Age : 77 Location : Krugersdorp
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:01 pm | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:16 am | |
| QUOTE FROM HAROLD, a 82 year old pensioner
I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' Well...I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and whisky into urine. I do it everyday and I really enjoy it. It keeps me busy
Waar het ek dit al gehoor?
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Christo
Posts : 85 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 50 Location : Northmead Benoni.
| Subject: Re: ALCOHOLIC Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:56 am | |
| julle het my nou dronk gepraat en ek drink nie eers nie |
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