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Cliff
Posts : 741 Reputation : 55 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 47 Location : JHB
| Subject: Sick Fish....help Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:36 pm | |
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frans
Posts : 192 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2010-05-25 Age : 53 Location : sundowner randburg gauteng
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:27 pm | |
| i think your fish has fin rot you can use melafix and pimafix together then do as Dr Pieter said FEED GARLIC |
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Jaco
Posts : 700 Reputation : 5 Join date : 2008-02-16 Age : 58 Location : Odendaalsrus Freestate
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:08 pm | |
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Chris Maritz
Posts : 313 Reputation : 8 Join date : 2009-10-06 Location : Port Elizabeth
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:15 am | |
| Not dropsy.... It's a bacterial infection that's spread. With fins deteriorating points to the infection being in the fins as well which will take months to heal properly.
I'm affraid you'll have to decide whether it's worth treating or releaving it from it's missery.... If you wanna try treating it, try an anti-biotic like Amikacin. I've had very good results with it in the past. I use the 250mg/2ml vials. |
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Cliff
Posts : 741 Reputation : 55 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 47 Location : JHB
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:25 am | |
| Thanks Chris, that was the advice I was looking for. What would you suggest, would I have to treat this fish seperately or could it be in the new pond? Problem is I dont have an immediate seperate setup available.
I know this is a sh!tty thing to say but this was one of my first fish which cost me R70, so luckily not a loss if decision is to euthenaise.....just worried that this may spread to my other fish in due course......will it? and what should I do immediately to safeguard them?
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wayneb Admin
Posts : 1681 Reputation : 29 Join date : 2007-12-08 Age : 46 Location : Kraai Fontein, Cape Town Metropol
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:30 am | |
| - Jaco wrote:
- Dead fish swimming.
agreed. Once the fins and body start to look like that its a few days away from a hole in the ground. You can try an anti-bacterial solution for it to swim in plus high salt (dont stress it anymore) but my experience tells me its to late for most. I pulled 1 or 2 through when it started looking like that but its upto each fish. The fish is exausted and has no-immune system left. I have seen it in my own collection in the past and usually happens when a fish is sick and the owner is a bit over zealous in treating it (like iwas) or if the road to recovery is to long. The stress from being caught to often, anethetized, injected and treated causes it to starts to look like that. Its like its own immune system just shuts down. Fin rot sets in everywhere next thing will be fungus on the body...and the ulcer will get worse... Try the anti-bacterial solution with high salt but dont catch it for any reason and in 2-3 weeks if its stll alive inspect it. Thats the only advise i can give. Remember its winter now and the wound wont heal till the water gets to 20'C+. Antibiotitcs is only effective in water above 18'C. Best you can do now is to let it swim in a anti-bacterial solution and try and get it through winter. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:52 am | |
| Cliff,
Nothing will help for the fish anymore, put it to sleep. It could cause more problems in your pond and to other Koi . |
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Chris Maritz
Posts : 313 Reputation : 8 Join date : 2009-10-06 Location : Port Elizabeth
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:58 am | |
| I will definately not treat it in the same pond. If you don't have a QT facility rather put it to sleep. As Pieter said, it will cause problems in the new pond. |
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Neville
Posts : 1457 Reputation : 1 Join date : 2010-01-17 Age : 77 Location : Krugersdorp
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:28 am | |
| You have received very good advice from every body, go with it, If you don,t then please keep this fish away from others.
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Cliff
Posts : 741 Reputation : 55 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 47 Location : JHB
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:25 pm | |
| Was advised that I could do acetone in the tub the fish is in, adding a drop at a time till fish is on its side and motionless........can anyone confirm this? |
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Jaco
Posts : 700 Reputation : 5 Join date : 2008-02-16 Age : 58 Location : Odendaalsrus Freestate
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:28 pm | |
| - Pieter J de Villiers wrote:
- Cliff,
Nothing will help for the fish anymore, put it to sleep. It could cause more problems in your pond and to other Koi . This is what I would do, sorry my friend. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:53 pm | |
| Now this is what a hate about Koi keeping! |
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Chris Maritz
Posts : 313 Reputation : 8 Join date : 2009-10-06 Location : Port Elizabeth
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:57 pm | |
| Sorry Cliff..... Everyone has to do this some time. |
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Marius Bezuidenhout
Posts : 836 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2009-01-29 Age : 58 Location : Bloemfontein but mostly somewhere else
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:09 pm | |
| Sorry about your Koi.
I had a very special Koi called Elvis due to it rock and roll swimming pattern.(only paid R15 for it when it was small but my favourite) Injected him and made him special food to eat at the bottom since it struggled to swim to the top. Over a period of a few months the body became a 'S' shape, then 'L' shape and before it died a 'U' shape. Was sad to see him suffer and I was cruel not putting him to rest earlier on. |
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Cliff
Posts : 741 Reputation : 55 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 47 Location : JHB
| Subject: Re: Sick Fish....help Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:49 pm | |
| Kohaku put to sleep this even at 17h30......he's in some massive pond up there as we speak ......... hope the big guy's got some decent filtration up there......lol
What I did was put the fish in a bucket, added clove oil. Once I could see the gills had just about stopped moving I then added acetone to the water to kill the fish completely.
Read up that it is better to put them to sleep and to then add pure alchohol or vodka to the water to kill eliminate the fish completely. This is the best way as you are first putting it to sleep and then killing it which is more humane that just doing a pure alcholic sulution which is very stressful for the fish.
Oh well...hope he/she enjoys the after life |
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