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PostSubject: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 10:06 am

ek het `n koi gekoop `n paar maande terug voor die winter en het nog nie geweet hoe om koi te check nie.Die vis het seker op `n tyd fin rot gehad en die punte van die voorste vinne lyk of dit weg is op die kante.Die vinne groei al mooi groot maar die punte kom nie terug nie sal dit later terug groei of altyd so bly
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 10:10 am

Only pics will tell....
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 10:28 am

chris ek sal nog `n foto post wil net `n lekker net met lang steel kry om die vis te vang want dit gaan bietjie van `n mission wees in die pond
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 10:39 am

Nee man.... Spring in die water en vang die vis.
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 10:53 am

met die hitte deesdae was ek al baie lus om dit te doen hehehe ek wil nie my vis stress nie as jy sien hoe my vrou oor my stress wat nou nog van die visse nee wat hierdie is een familie fight waar ek gaan verby hou
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 10:58 am

n nr 6 hoekie sal ok werk
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 11:04 am

frans het jy moord gesien hier daai vrou sal my nie eers saam met die honde laat slaap nie hehehehe
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 3:43 pm

vriend van my se ek moet die vin trim met `n skerkie en dan mercherocrom op gooi dis blykbaar die stukke wat nog daar sit wat die vin stop om weer mooi rond te groei
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 5:08 pm

ek hoop die foto kan meer se jammer het nog nie gevang en in bak gesit nie

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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 8:38 am

Hi Vossie,

When I built my new pond around 2 months ago my kase kohaku took a beating with finrot in the portapool I setup in my garage. I had a bio filter and all on my porta pond and did water changes every 2-3 days, my problem I am sure was down to stress, stress I read is a huge contributing factor to fin rot. I was wondering if I should trim the fins down by cutting them etc but was told fins could possibly grow back skew. So after much investigation believe that if you keep a good salt content in your pond and when the water warms up and the fish start feeding and growing that the fins will come right. A few of my fish have ragged ends to their pecs, so I've been praying for summer to come along to see that all comes right.

You also get a product called fin med or something which I hear is brilliant for tears.....hopefully fin rot too....have not seen this product anywhere tho.

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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 8:44 am

Vossie,

die beskadigde gedeeltes moet weggesny word, die vin sal nie vanself regkom nie!

and Anver.......................The damage parts on the fin must be trimmed off. It will not heal by itself!
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 9:04 am

dankie pieter sal so maak
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 11:40 am

Pieter J de Villiers wrote:
Vossie,

die beskadigde gedeeltes moet weggesny word, die vin sal nie vanself regkom nie!

and Anver.......................The damage parts on the fin must be trimmed off. It will not heal by itself!

Dankie Pieter, ek het een vis wat finrot opgedoen het so ruk terug en ek het dit gelos en gelos maar dit kom nie self reg nie. Snaak al die jare van koi keeping en ek het nooit met finrot self tedoen gekry nie. Weet hoe dit lyk en hoe hulle se ek dit moet behandel...maar dit het nie gewerk tot dusver nie. Ek het dit topical begin behandel die afgelope paar weke...so ek moet dit wegsny. Hoe ver weg? Moet dit reguit gesny word?
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 11:50 am

Hi Wayne

Mr de Villiers is correct this time, you should trim the dead tissue of fin as it will then grow back faster, I have found that trimming it and using Acriflavine on the fin helps. Also it is important not to damage the maim ray as this does not grow back easy. Pieter Odendaal from Koi4U is busy with a study on regrowth of fins, see his news letter for this month. Maybe he can help with some real info or follow the link.(I have it at home)
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 11:58 am

Cliff wrote:
You also get a product called fin med or something which I hear is brilliant for tears.....hopefully fin rot too....have not seen this product anywhere tho.

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http://happykoi.improweb.com/SelectedHead.aspx?S=1912

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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 12:37 pm

Thanks Marius.....think I must go get some.

So should I cut my koi's fins, will they definitely grow back 100%???? I really dont want skew fins as this is my best kohaku.

What is the possibility of it growing back fine without cutting?

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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 12:47 pm

Have no idea. Never used it before but surely the experienced people here will be able to tell. Just saw the product on internet and from what I hear it is good
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 12:48 pm

Sorry Marius, the first sentence was thanking you, the rest was a general question for all.......lol
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 2:02 pm

Ja jong, wens dat daar 'n koi dealer in die kaap die BoaBio produkte hier verkoop. Ek mis dit.
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PostSubject: Re: fin rot   fin rot Icon_minitimeThu Sep 09, 2010 5:39 pm

Firstly..........removed by myself.

Secondly,
Wayne, you need to try and trim the fin in a natural way, by taking the shape of a normal fin in account.
Acriflavine is a very mild treatment regarding fin rot, and it is not very effective against the Flavobacterium colomnare ( also known as Flexbacter colmnaris) a bacterium which causes fin rot.

I have found the Methylene Blue mixed with Wound Powder to paste is a better solution to the problem, and then sealed with an application of Friars Balsam.

Cutting away the “infected” area of the fin, should be done with a sharp sterilized pair of scissors. The fin should be cut away behind the area of redness.

If the fin has completely gone and the base of the infected fin is red and sore, it is possible that the infection has spread inside the Koi.

Never cut the ray ( leading) fin. Rather, use a nail file to do the job, as the fin normally split when cut.

As a last resort I suggest an antibiotic injection, using Genta50 injection, although the best is to take a swab to established what anti-bacterial treatment to use.


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The way you 2 go on at each other is ridiculous, why not rather pm each other. I for 1 am not interested in reading immature bickering all day trying to make out inbetween what is worth reading and what is not.

I like you both and this is not me being personal with you so don't take it that way....its just unnecessary and is ruining a lot of valid threads on this forum.

Your both equally advantages to this forum in your own ways, just accept that and respect that and let it be.....come on, at tje end of tje day we all want the same thing here...so let's not ruin it for everyone!
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