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PostSubject: What variety is this?   What variety is this? Icon_minitimeSun May 09, 2010 10:47 pm

I dragged this one from one of my dirty ponds today. I am not sure what variety it is. What do you say?

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PostSubject: Re: What variety is this?   What variety is this? Icon_minitimeMon May 10, 2010 8:27 am

Hi Admin
This must be a world first in all my many years never seen anything like it.
Gespikkelde oranje?
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PostSubject: Re: What variety is this?   What variety is this? Icon_minitimeMon May 10, 2010 9:23 am

I've know..... you have to pronounce it in Japanese.

Something like: Ginrin GoneWong Oranje Bekko! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: What variety is this?   What variety is this? Icon_minitimeThu May 27, 2010 11:40 am

Not sure what it is....its not something i would like to keep. Its head / face looks a bit deformed as well. Orenji Metalic Bekko is my best guess.
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PostSubject: Re: What variety is this?   What variety is this? Icon_minitimeThu May 27, 2010 11:55 am

Hi Wayne, also don't like it.

Have never seen a metallic orange koi with Ginrin and black. I did not expect this from an imported batch of fish from Japan (Aoki). Rather from a flock spawning.

Maybe Aoki was experimenting on another new variety?. He is quite known for trying to develop new varieties all the time.

Interview between Kodama and Aoki:

Kodama:
What kind of policy do you have when it comes to koi breeding?
Aoki:
I thought that I should breed varieties that nobody does. So that is what I have always been doing. About 15 years ago, I thought that exporting would be a big thing and expected that popular varieties abroad would be Doitsu and Hikarimono. And so, I paid attention to "Kikusui" in Hikarimono and tried to create a a new variety with it.

Kodama:
I see. 80% of koi produced in Niigata go abroad now. As you exactly foresaw, the demand from foreign countries increased. And Hikarimono is popular abroad. Especially, your Kikusui and Kikokuryu are highly demanded. In this sense, you were absolutely right, weren't you?
Aoki:
Recently, koi hobbyists in foreign countries improved their eye for koi and have come to buy real nice ones. I think we must make more efforts to improve the quality of koi and we must create new varieties, too.

Kodama:
" Kikokuryu" that you created made a sensation in the Nishikigoi world. Please tell us about the creation process of Kikokuryu.
Aoki:
It was 1993. 10 years ago, I crossbred a male Kumonryu with a female Kikusui. At the time, "Kikokuryu" appeared. When the Kikokuryu became three years old, it won "Best in Variety" at the All Japan Combined Young Nishikigoi Show.

Kodama:
The Kikokuryu at that time was beautiful because the sumi pattern was described on a shiny platinum body, it is notan exaggeration to say it was an innovative new variety. There was no koi that had sumi on platinum. Your contribution was truly great. Also, "Beni Kikokuryu," another one of your creations, is famous. How did you create it?
Aoki:
It is also from a Kumonryu. Kikokuryu simply has sumi on platinum. But by crossing a Kikusui with a Kumonryu, "the red of the Kikusui" came out. Koi without red became Kikokuryu whereas koi with red became Beni Kikokuryu.

http://www.kodamakoifarm.com/beginner/a_aoki.html

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PostSubject: Re: What variety is this?   What variety is this? Icon_minitimeThu May 27, 2010 5:24 pm

Ok i have worked it out.

Its a KinGinrin kawasaki
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PostSubject: Re: What variety is this?   What variety is this? Icon_minitimeThu May 27, 2010 6:00 pm

Hi,

I found a similar Koi on page 233 of "Modern Nishikigoi" by Takco Kuroki.

It is called a KINRIN KINPORAI.

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Found among fry of the Shochikubai Ginrin.
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PostSubject: Re: What variety is this?   What variety is this? Icon_minitimeThu May 27, 2010 6:34 pm

Hi Pieter

se jy dit is n "Sokkie Koebaai Ginrin".

En die teler is Pauluisi Viljaku.
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