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PostSubject: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeWed Oct 17, 2007 10:21 am

General information about water plants

Pros and cons ...

Water plants look lovely and create a tranquil environment and compliment your pond.
They are expensive. The current price of a normal fairly small water Lily is currently R 50.00.
They preclude you from using too much salt in the water. With plants, you are limited to 0.1% (1,35 kg / 1000 l) salt concentration although the ideal concentration for Koi is 0.2% (2.7 kg / 1000 l)
Because you are limited with your salt concentration, you might have more algae growth, but on the other hand, your plants may use all the nutrients and leave none for the algae to grow.
They preclude you from treating the pond properly with certain chemicals.
They give hiding space for the fish which gives them better protection against sunlight, birds and other elements;
The big Koi tends to eat the plants. It is therefore sometimes needed to protect the plants from access by the fish. The ideal is to place your plants in your bio filter.
Proper care has to be taken to ensure that the plant is not poisonous to the fish;
If there are too many plants, you might not see the fish.
They can easily overgrow the pond and require constant attention if not controlled properly.
They help to eliminate Ammonia, Nitrites and especially Nitrates.
They might create a breeding ground for bad bacteria (Aerosomonas and Pseudomonas)
At night time they use oxygen and therefore compete with the fish if there is limited oxygen in the water.
They compete with and therefore control excessive algae growth because they use the Nutrients and Nitrates in the water also required by algae.
During day time they create oxygen which is beneficial to the fish.
They can introduce fatal bacteria or parasites if proper treatment has not been taken. They should always be placed in quarantine before introduced to the pond. (Potassium or Dipterex)
They provide spawning material in the spawning season. After spawning, the plants can be removed easily and placed in a spawning tank, thereby preventing the fish from eating the eggs.

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PostSubject: Re: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeFri May 02, 2008 12:17 am

In my post above I mentioned that all plants have to be treated with Potassium or Dipterex.

I recently introduced plants to one of my ponds, and eventhough I treated with Potassium, I had problems with leeches.

In view thereof, I will treat with Potassium AND Dipterex in future. The Potassium is very good for most parasites including snails but does not sort out leeches.

In addition to what I said above about the pros and cons, also bear the following in mind.

Although the plants use some of the Nitrates which is not good for the Koi, The Nitrates created by the Koi via Nitrites are much more than what plants can sort out. With 10% water changes, you get a far better result.

Remember that Koi loves a strong current. Plants don't

Plants need shallow water, koi needs deeper water.

Plants like nutrients, koi need to be protected against too many nutrients.

Plants like carbon dioxide and neutral to acidic water conditions, koi like neutral to slightly alkaline systems and low carbon dioxide.

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PostSubject: Re: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeWed Aug 08, 2012 2:23 pm

Thank you Paul Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeThu Aug 09, 2012 5:39 pm

Paul this plant thing still bugs me a lot. cyclops I get mixed feelings from different koi keepers and can't make up my mind if I want them in my filters or not. Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeSun Aug 19, 2012 8:36 pm

This plant is taking over

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PostSubject: Re: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeTue Aug 28, 2012 9:54 am

Hi there all,

the fisrts pictures that i have posted was the after pictures.

The one that i post now is the before pictures , when i just planted the plants.

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They grow very fast Shocked Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeTue Aug 28, 2012 10:25 am

That is the biggest problem. Plants take over and should almost be redone every year. Very important to treat the water with PP when you are redoing the plants. A lot of gunk and baddies will enter the water and increase the organic load in the water. The PP will lower the organic load, bacterial count and parasites.

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PostSubject: Re: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeTue Aug 28, 2012 3:11 pm

Best is to try and plant them in no soil at all...just bare rooted...and maintain them.
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PostSubject: Potassium AND Dipterex    Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeWed Dec 05, 2012 7:47 am

Hi guys,

Quick question - where can I buy Potassium AND Dipterex to treat water plants.

And for the treatment, do I just soke them in a solution?

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PostSubject: Re: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeWed Dec 05, 2012 11:35 am

willieburger wrote:
Hi guys,

Quick question - where can I buy Potassium AND Dipterex to treat water plants.

And for the treatment, do I just soke them in a solution?

Thanks

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Potasium U buy in pharmacies. Prepare solution of 2g per 10l water and keep the plants for an hour inside.
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Thanks Neli Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeMon Dec 10, 2012 5:49 pm

Hi there all , here is just some pic of the cleaning of the plants in my pond.

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How often do You do it Q. Looks like lots of job.
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PostSubject: Re: Pro's and con's of water plants   Pro's and con's of water plants Icon_minitimeTue Dec 11, 2012 8:52 am

Neli wrote:
How often do You do it Q. Looks like lots of job.

Hi there Neli ,

This is the first time that i have add this plants to the pond.
They have grow very fast.

It was very hard work to clean , and to do it alone to is not easy. Rolling Eyes

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THis is how it looks now

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