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PostSubject: My little koi   Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:34 am

Can anyone please provide information about the type of koi and the quality from the photo



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PostSubject: Re: My little koi   Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:15 pm

Hi Phillip

Welcome to the forum.

The top fish is a doitsu sanke and the bottom one a Hariwake.

The fish are still very small and it is always difficult to judge a fish when so small, especially from a photo.

However, both are low petshop quality.

The hi (red) on the sanke makes the fish totally unbalanced, Only red on the right front side. The sumi(black) is concentrated on the back(dorsal) with no stepping stones and the sumi that already appeared, is of low quality.

Herewith a photo of how a doitsu sanke should look like, and if you compare it, you will understand. Sharp patterns, deep red, strong black, good balance between red white and black and well placed, good skin quality, perfect background(white) good bodyshape etc etc.



The hariwake show pink through which is a bad sign, it appears as if black is going to come through behind the head, the metallic pattern not sharp and unbalanced(on the head and no pattern on the body)

However, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and if you like it, who are we to judge?

They are still small, and might just develop into nice pond fish.

Enjoy them and learn through their development.

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PostSubject: Thank you Paul   Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:47 pm

I appreciate the iformation that you gave me regarding these two koi. I am still a novice at the koi game, but would like to become an expert as time goes by. Information like that is a sign of a true koi expert. Thank you
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PostSubject: Re: My little koi   Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:16 pm

Phillip,

There are no experts regarding Koi, anyone calling himself a Koi expert is a fool!
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PostSubject: Re:   Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:58 pm

Hi,

I think the one on the top is a Sanke, but not a Doitsu Sanke.

Cause if i look carefully, i can see scales on the koi.

Am i wrong?

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PostSubject: Re: My little koi   Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:50 pm

sas, the koi does have scales, but very small. The photo above is about 5 months old and I ave noticed that the black on the koi has increased in depth.
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PostSubject: Re: My little koi   Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:19 pm

Hi Tony

Still looks like a Doitsu Sanke with mirror scales to me. Mirror scales does not make it Wagoi. (however, the photo is not very good)

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PostSubject: Re: My little koi   Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:47 pm

Hi Paul

I concur with your statment.
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PostSubject: Re:   Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:03 pm

Admin wrote:
Hi Tony

Still looks like a Doitsu Sanke with mirror scales to me. Mirror scales does not make it Wagoi. (however, the photo is not very good)

Hi, Paul

Ok, i see what you meant.

Maybe the photo is not good.

Sorry, my english is not good.So i would like to ask what do you mean by "Mirror scales"? Do you mean the transparent scales for "Mirror scales"?

But to me, i can still see this koi is covered with scales on the whole body.... Question

By the way, may i ask is it normal for a Doitsu Sanke to have "Reflective metallic like scale" as i circled in the picture below? by the way, i don't know what people called this "Reflective metallic like scale" in english.



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PostSubject: Re:   Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:08 pm

Phillip1985 wrote:
sas, the koi does have scales, but very small. The photo above is about 5 months old and I ave noticed that the black on the koi has increased in depth.

Hi, Phillip1985

Thanks for your reply.

May i ask is the koi's whole body covered with scales or just have a few scales on the left and the right hand side?

It is normal for this specific koi that the black colour on this koi increase in depth as it grow.

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PostSubject: Re: My little koi   Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:17 am

sas, the koi has scales on the side, but none of them looks miror like to me, but that said, my knoledge on kois is still very limited. I will take another photo of the koi and post it, so that you can draw a comparisson between then and now ( almost like before and after photo on these makeover shows haha)

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PostSubject: Re:   Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:20 pm

Phillip1985 wrote:
sas, the koi has scales on the side, but none of them looks miror like to me, but that said, my knoledge on kois is still very limited. I will take another photo of the koi and post it, so that you can draw a comparisson between then and now ( almost like before and after photo on these makeover shows haha)

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Hi, Phillip1985.

Thanks for your reply.

I will wait for your photo of this koi.

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PostSubject: Re: My little koi   Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:52 pm

The Sanke is a normal full scalled koi, or that is what I see. Shocked
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