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PostSubject: One of my koi constantly comes up for air   Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:37 am

One of my koi constantly comes up for air and then dives to the bottom and release huge air bubbles. Stange behaviour. Apparently she has been doing this since she was small.

See video clip: follow the big orange matsuba.


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PostSubject: Re: One of my koi constantly comes up for air   Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:14 pm

Its sometimes a indication of a swimbladder problem, does the koi sit at the bottom often? Eugen had / have a simular situation with a chagoi that came up for air but then sat at the bottom of the pond waiting to come up for its next breath.

Another possibility is that there is something on its gills that might be irretating it. For example i read that koi with parasite investations on the gills often blow bubbles over its gills to try and remove some of the parasites but it is actually pretty normal for this time of year... Heres a snippit from an article on my website that explains why.

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The [whitish] film/patches you see on your koi in winter are one of two things: Costia or, more likely, excess dead mucous coat. This is very common in winter and can be resolved with warm water and aeration. Ironically, it is the salt that assists in causing this build up as it first stimulates the mucous cells to work over time and then dries out the thickened mucous.

Normally koi swim, no correct that, ‘slide’ through the water. The mucous is worked backwards by this friction and leaves the body into the water column. This is a form of grooming for the koi but also serves the important function of casting off would-be foreign invaders. Finally, metabolites of the dermis and epidermis are lost through this action.

When a koi is in stasis, the normal slime removal is stopped. It is not unusual for it to become caked and ‘dead’ on the resting fish. Interestingly, these white patches always seems to be bilateral on the head (in crevices and creases of the skull and gill plate), a patch on crown or nose and along the body in islands.

When you warm fish up, you THEN can add some salt to stimulate normal slime production and encourage the sloughing of the old patches.

You might also notice that koi will blow bubbles over and out of the gills during this time. That is slime production caked on the lamella that they are grooming off.

Again, to an inexperienced eye, it is best to scrape this patch and make sure it is slime and epithelial cells and NOT costia or chilo.
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PostSubject: Re: One of my koi constantly comes up for air   Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:14 am

Paul,

ek sal my nie oor die Koi bekommer nie, dit wil voorkom asof sy die gewoonte aangeleer het om haar kop uit te lig sodra sy naby of deur die water terug-voer stroom swem.
Wat kan gebeur is dat die borrels wat deur die water veroorsaak word die kiewe bietjie irriteer. Jy sal sien dat sy dit nie in die nag sal doen nie.
Indien sy die heeltyd naby die inloop na aan die oppervlakte hang en " lug hap" is daar 'n probleem.
Miskien moet jy nogtans net 'n skraap neem en ondersoek instel, maar ek glo nie jy sal iets kry nie, daarvoor is die Kois in die dam te "rustig"
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PostSubject: Re: One of my koi constantly comes up for air   Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:40 am

Ek het verskeie skrapings geneem en daar is geen teken van enige parasiete nie. Sy le ook nie op die bodem wat kan dui op 'n "swimbladder disorder" nie.

Die feit dat sy dit al na bewering jare lank doen se vir my dit is dalk 'n gewoonte wat sy aangeleer het as gevolg van 'n vroeer parasiet probleem. Ek het haar nou maar twee maande.

Dit is nie 'n agressiewe aksie nie, amper eerder 'n speel aksie, en sy doen dit veral voor voedingstyd. Miskien is dit haar poging om te kommunikeer wanneer sy honger raak?

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PostSubject: Re: One of my koi constantly comes up for air   Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:49 pm

Admin, Ek sien dit is 'n ou post, maar my 70cm Kohako doen dieselfde as op jou video. Ek het navrae op Bito gedoen en hulle se dit is normaal vir groter Koi om dit te doen, ek het ook al van Ernst se groot Koi dit sien doen. Ek is nou meer rustig oor myne, sy het dit in die kleiner dam gedoen en doen dit nog steeds in die groter dam.
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