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PostSubject: Masaki female shiro for sale   Masaki female shiro for sale Icon_minitimeFri Sep 07, 2012 5:29 pm

Female masaki shiro utsuri

Size is 46cm

R2k takes her!

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Hey Cliff very nice fish , and very good price, she's carrying eggs as well.

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Why you selling her?
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He is buying more fish, Twisted Evil Shocked

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Did not even give her a chance. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Masaki female shiro for sale   Masaki female shiro for sale Icon_minitimeFri Sep 07, 2012 9:09 pm

Cliff why don't you just rather build another pond affraid bounce bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Masaki female shiro for sale   Masaki female shiro for sale Icon_minitimeFri Sep 07, 2012 9:31 pm

Wayne, I usually buy 2 or more from the same batch, watch how they turn out after a year or more then keep the ones I want and sell off or move out to make space for another fish when the time comes around. In this case I have decided to keep this ones sibling rather.

This how I control my stocking level and selection. Like I have just purchased 8 tosai from Costa and will see how they progress over the next 2 years or so and move the ones that I feel are less superior to its siblings.

Just how I do things, don't see the point of keeping 2 of the same variety if its not my favourite variety, would rather have more go sanke there

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That's the right way to do it Cliff Very Happy

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Yeah, it is not a bad idea. The only problem with it is that some koi only show their potential much later in life. With doing it this way one will have good small quality koi but never big good quality koi.

I just wanted to know why you are selling her cause she has potential. The pattern is not excellent, so she will have to be excellent in body shape and colour which i do think she has.
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Cliff show us the other one to, maybe then we will agree with you or understand why. Very nice photos,BTW Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Masaki female shiro for sale   Masaki female shiro for sale Icon_minitimeSat Sep 08, 2012 9:33 am

Hey Tommy...here is the other one below.

Wayne, with the one I am selling I can see pretty much what I am going to get regarding sumi and pattern....only thing really unsure of is how the body will turn out., with this one here below I know even less, however it has a stronger body and the sumi when it comes up I'm sure will make for an interesting shiro.

I really dont like catching the one below, she is very very active and almost hit the edging trying to jump out of the net.....last time when I tried to catch her she jumped out and injured herself, so I really try not to catch her.

She also doesn't sit still!

Am I making the right choice?

I think so!

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PostSubject: Re: Masaki female shiro for sale   Masaki female shiro for sale Icon_minitimeSat Sep 08, 2012 1:40 pm

I think the angle at which U held the camera is a bit too small. It makes the body appear funny. hpld the camera a bit more vertical.
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You are right, the bottom ones body is better. The one you are trying to sell is pregnant too early. Sad

Pattern wise i think they are equal. I dont think the one you are keeping is going to have a better pattern. From what i can see the sumi seems located to the one side of the body - same as the one you trying to sell. The one you are keeping seems to have a better white but it might be the photo only.

It is a bit of a gamble Cliff, there is no guarantee that the later on is going to turn out better. What bothers me a little bit about the one you are keeping is that i don't see one place where the sumi is up and solid. So you have no idea what you are going to get. The later is more long term fish and more fun if you are into those type of things but something Hannes Uys told me is you want at least one spot somewhere on the Shiro where its sumi shows you what it will be eventually capable of.

If you need to get rid of one now, i think you are making the right decision if one only looks at the body shape, other than that i really cant say.
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PostSubject: Re: Masaki female shiro for sale   Masaki female shiro for sale Icon_minitimeWed Sep 19, 2012 9:54 am

She got a red mark on the side when I caught her, person came to see her on saturday and said straight away he will take her for R2k. I mentioned the red mark on the side as she jumped when I caught her and said lets see how she clears up first and that he can tak her next week.

Will decide if I call him because I am realising I may not have given her a fair chance as yet and think I should keep her for another season.

So will decide this week end if I call that individual as she has cleared up completely now.

Wayne, you may cost me a sale here bud, however a sale I may not regret not taking!
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Hi Cliff
I feel you are a bit hasty, give them some time first you might be sorry. JMO Very Happy

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you right Tommy.........takes time to get a fish to this size from tosai, also that she's female is a bonus which is something you cannot guarantee from tosai.....so think best to hold onto her and see what she looks like in April next year when she is 50cm plus

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Cliff keep us posted on the development of these two fish, think every body are curios already to see these two develop now, think you are making the right choice now. Very Happy

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Miya Oki Koi wrote:
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I feel you are a bit hasty, give them some time first you might be sorry. JMO Very Happy
Yes! Somewhat impatient...
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at least im concisious of not wanting an over stocked pond and amd trying to give my fish the best possible space and environment to live in..........if I make a mistake along the way then at least it will serve as a reminder that I am in fact just human! Very Happy
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Who needs more practice in taking decent photos, Shocked Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Yes! Somewhat impatient...

at least im concisious of not wanting an over stocked pond and amd trying to give my fish the best possible space and environment to live in..........if I make a mistake along the way then at least it will serve as a reminder that I am in fact just human! Very Happy
Dont be so serious! We are just teasing U!
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Neli wrote:
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Yes! Somewhat impatient...

at least im concisious of not wanting an over stocked pond and amd trying to give my fish the best possible space and environment to live in..........if I make a mistake along the way then at least it will serve as a reminder that I am in fact just human! Very Happy
Dont be so serious! We are just teasing U!

stop being so serious Neli....I'm just teasing you afro
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He hehe!
It sounded toooooooooooo serious to be not serious!
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Shiros are 4+ years type varieties.
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