Hi Wayne and sas.
You guys obviously don't know the Sakuma bloodline.... or maybe you were just cross with some one when you judged Cliff's fish...

Well, that is my opinion at this point in time... Opinion asked, opinion given. I was not negative about Cliffs fish, i highlighted the good and the bad.

wayneb from http://koionline.forumotion.com/t2899p15-shiro-usturi wrote:

If one asks for opinions about a fish, you have to accept that 1) You asked for it 2) The comments might not all be good 3) the evaluation happen from a photo so its not going to be 100% accurate and 4) Its just peoples opinions in the end. The only opinion that counts in the end is your own.

Wayne, I enjoy your feedback and comments.....as well as anyone elses

I know it is difficult to judge a fish from a photo, I am sure if I posted a video it would be a different story.

Like a said, all comments welcome.....this is how we learn.

When I post progress pics in a few months we will have a better idea then

All said their parts. All I have to say is that this is one of the best kohaku's I've seen in a LONG LONG time.

Given the proper care & water this one will reach 70cm in no more than 2 years. If it keeps that quality it'll be a champion.

A total side track to this topic but do you know how tricky it is to get a tosai to 60cm in good condition in a concrete pond. 60-70cm Is also not easy and i think the show entries proof that. So we generally say that a koi will look x and y at 70cm but most never reach that. If a koi bought as tosai reach 60cm and it still has good condition then that is a achievement in itself. I have a Asagi that is now hitting 80cm this year that i bought at 15cm in 2006. It has taken 6 years to get it to 80cm. Almost lost it on 2008 due to a single ulcer on its abdomen that i never saw. It was 4cm in diameter and at least 1cm deep.

Hi Cliff

I like enjoy and lets see the developement as time goes by .

Anver

Damn I love this fish......when I caught it this morning it is just so different to all the others...the body feel is so solid and muscular.

I love it!!

Cliff
You see i know yuor ability and this is how to build a collection .

It is looking very good .

Please take it to baby show.

Anver

Stunning kohaku! Still think it going to be a wide koi with tme (Try not to say balloon or rugby ball - it upsets Costa)

I think its female, the colours on it is excellent and white is amazing.

Wow Cliff, all your fish are really looking very good, WELL DONE .

This one is going to be an awesome fish, [ Mmmm I dont see a rugby ball body ] I think you're going to loose all your lap dances .

As I told you , good food ,and good water, plus good bloodline , thats how you build a collection.

Keep up the good work mate. Ohhh plus a timer to turn taps off.

Awesome awesome awesome!!

Winner!!!!

Hi Cliff
Stunning Kohaku, Think this fish will do great on a show Well done so far and keep us posted.