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PostSubject: Sakuma Showa   Mon May 21, 2012 8:23 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Mon May 21, 2012 9:26 pm

Looks nicely balanced to me-think he will develope in a stunning fish. Nice tail as well. Would like to see it in a year or two.
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Mon May 21, 2012 9:38 pm

Very nice body shape.nice head in porportion with the body.Nice thick tail.Pecks look good and the lustre is good ,within 2 years with sumi to appear a totally differant but stunning fish.

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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 9:21 am

Thank you Guys, yes it is indeed turning out nicly and to think i picked it from a 'stamp sized photo' Laughing

Very happy with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 10:04 am

Going to be a very nice fish. Long term fish. Patience!

The two small hi spots between the first and second step is unpleasing at the moment but will clear hopefully soon.

Very nice body.

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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 12:12 pm

Hi Wayne.
This is a nice Showa! Excellent body shape, big mouth and a fat tail. Shasi and kiwa will clear up and I see a interesting face pattern coming up. Think this Showa will develop into a interesting and AWESOME fish! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 12:42 pm

Laughing Laughing Laughing Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Thanks Wayne, I see you like my Stamp Sized photos Laughing but i must agree with you , could not have been easy to pick from such small pics. Embarassed Embarassed

The showa is developing very very nice, I love it, Well done , what is the size now ?

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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 12:54 pm

Its 47.5 now. When i got it last year July from you it was 21cm.

'Stamp sized photos', hahaha. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil You know Costa, im still going to be joking about this for a long time. When i originally picked it i scrolled through pages and pages of the small photos and i think this one was one the 3rd last page. I could not really see anything regarding quality or even its fins. I was looking for Kindai Showa at the time, so i created a shortlist of the kindai showas in all the pages. I basically picked blind and just went on the what i could see pattern wise. lol

It helps to make up once mind of what you want to buy before looking at photos, that way you restrict yourself and most of the temptations are taken away. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 1:01 pm

Laughing Laughing I'm sure you wont let me forget it. Laughing but you have a good eye to pick from small pics.

Thats very good growth you got, well done.

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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 1:17 pm

Very nice Wayne, has a nice powerful looking body for such a young fish.

I love how positive the growth is on these sakuma fish, they really are my favourite at the mo, only thing is the hi takes a knock in the first 2 years, but consolidates when the growing slows down.

I have 2 sisters of this one in my pond, the one I received in September at 25cm and the other in January at 30cm and both are now around 45 - 48cm as well....hi looks stretched etc but the bodies superb.

Really nice Wayne!
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 3:22 pm

Sisters I was speaking about earlier, hope you dont mind me posting them here......thought you would be interested to see them?

one on the right obviously


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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 3:24 pm

They from the same batch?
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 3:33 pm

Yes, I am almost 100% sure, did you get them from the jumbo tosai or normal tosai......you said 21cm which I would assume are from the normal tosai, so should definitely be from the same batch.

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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 3:55 pm

Was from the normal sized tosai.
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 5:38 pm

Yup Guys, they were all from the same batch. [ Normal Tosai. ] bounce bounce bounce Have pics of them , all small pics Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Tue May 22, 2012 6:12 pm

Hi Costa, please post the pics.
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Wed May 23, 2012 6:26 pm

costa j wrote:
you have a good eye to pick from small pics.

I have this standard rule i try and apply to Gosanke which i believe make a big impact on how one observes the koi. The fish must start with white and end with white. I do believe it rounds the fish off very nicely but unfortunately sometimes you find a koi with other good characteristics and it does not have the white nose and tail... Not sure if i have a good eye...time will tell.

I wanted a Kindai showa from you after i saw that stunning Kindai showa you at the show in 2010. Must be honest was very jelous when Colin bought it. Embarassed Was standing right there with the money in my pocket waiting for him to say he does not want it. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Wed May 23, 2012 9:10 pm

Wayne, spot your showa.

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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Wed May 23, 2012 9:12 pm

I see its hiding its head under that kohaku. cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Wed May 23, 2012 9:15 pm

Here is another pic, when they were picked in Japan.
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Wed May 23, 2012 9:16 pm

Think i picked the best one out of the lot Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Razz cheers

Now where is that trumpet of mine again...

Thank you for the pics Costa.
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Wed May 23, 2012 9:22 pm

Wayne, your one is turning out stunning, but I must say a lot of them have turned out very good. cheers cheers cheers cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Wed May 23, 2012 9:27 pm

Yes i believe you. Im a sucker for a nice small bright tosai.

Do you think it is possible to take small tosai like this and compete one day at SGC levels or is that just a dream? All the big gals at koi shows are often bought big. Is that cause its near impossible to get them that big and in good condition at that size in a concrete pond? I have managed to get tosai to 65cm in a decent condition but not sure if they will reach 75+ and maintain their condition.

I have a Asagi that i bought for R30 in 2006 at 18cm. Its now nearing 80cm, nice body and very calm fish but not the quality one wants at shows.
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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Thu May 24, 2012 8:09 am

I can only see the one that I bought in the above pic......which I have subsequently rehomed to PhilipV on this forum.

The other 2, which are these 2 I dont see....however do feel my clown nose was the best one Wayne and not your one... Razz



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PostSubject: Re: Sakuma Showa   Thu May 24, 2012 9:00 am

geek lol!
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