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PostSubject: Power Outage   Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:27 pm


Last week we had no water for a few day's in Krugersdorp, and today the power went. The excuse was this morning we had 25mm of rain. Interesting though my power only went off around midday.?

Well I have a small genset so find a garage with petrol and get going.

Well my gennie cannot pull both pump's so we decided we will change over every 2 hrs or so. Surprise at the first changeover it wont pull the other pump, and it is also a ,75 Quality. in a very similar setup.

You better believe that some serious tests as to power consumption will happen tomorrow, or when we have power again. Rumors have it that it could be 4 days.
Promise you I am boiling under the collar.


All of a sudden I feel very far from everything.
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:30 pm

H All

Yes t s gong to be 4 day's well that s what they say now. 12 Hrs on and 12 Hrs of. Apparently we had 2 transformers and the one was hit by the first bit of lightning we see this year. So now half of town gets power from 10 in the evening and the other half from 10 in the morning.
Oh shit we are living in Africa aren't we.
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:31 pm

Shocked Shocked Shocked

Dit wil my voorkom of Krugersdorp, naby alles.... jou in die steek laat Neville Exclamation Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:40 pm

Hi Bobby

Ja jy is reg jong ek is so de mo#@r in vanaand man, waar is die standby goed, en hoekom het die weerlig die ding raakgeslaan. Dis mos sommer kaf man, daar is weer geen onderhoud gedoen man.

Dit het in die ou tyd gebeur maar dan is die krag vir n half uur of so af man, en dit in storm weer.
Hierdie onvermoe gaan ons nog laat seerkry man.

Pietr Odendaal waarsku my reeds "pasop vir aeromonas hulle is op pad JHB toe." Hy het nou die dag vir die dag 72 visse moes inspuit, nou kom hulle en bedem my water.
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:51 am

Neville, ek ken daardie gevoel. In die ou dorp waar ek gewerk het het dieselfde gebeur. Daar was vir amper 5maande net krag vir 12 ure per dag. Hulle het gewag vir transformer van China af( groot fout). Gelukkig het ek daar aangkom so 'n maand voordat alles herstel was. Kos was 'n groot probleem want in die winkels het hulle min moeite gedoen om alles gevries te hou in die 12uur kraglose tyd.

Moes toe maar generator gaan koop. Dit is juis hierdie soort van ding wat my pla want hier kan ek dit baie goedkoop kry maar in SA het die prys die hoogte in geskiet. Ons almal wil graag 'n lae wattage pomp gebruik om krag te bespaar maar baie van die pompe wat min krag gebruik kos helse klomp geld. Hoekom vra party plekke tot R4000 vir Pedrollo pomp maar ek kan dit hier kry vir R1250( dit na 20% VAT). Laat my amper dink aan my jong dae toe mens in koerante gelees het dat alles duur is omdat die goudprys nie $400 is nie. Dit nou reeds oor die $1000 maar alles kos net meer elke maand. My kankerstokkies het 3 jaar gelede so R13 gekos. Vandag is dit +- R27 terwyl ek in Tanzania maar R12 betaal - dieselfde prys as 3jaar gelede.

Om terug te kom na die krag storie toe moet ek erken dat my rekening hier elke maand min of meer dieselfde kos selfs toe ek net 12ure per dag krag gehad het. mmmh laat mens wonder


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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:16 am

Hello
Would it not be better to run a few large air pumps instead of the filter while the power is off? not forgetting to put some air stones in your filters as well to keep them alive?.
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:38 am

Neville maybe you must invest in the following...... Just a pity its costing so much


http://www.mobaxgroup.com/content_sub.asp?ssID=44
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:44 am

Hi Neville,

1) Stop all feeding immediately - very important.

2) If you have a generator and can run one small pump then do so. A small pump with a slow turnover rate is far better than nothing. (And is far better than air stones). If necessary only run the pump at night. During the day some oxygen will be produced from the algae but you need to keep a eye on things (see # 6.)

3) Stopping feeding will go a long way towards controlling water quality and reducing the fishes oxygen consumption.

4) IF you do not have a generator. Drain all filters that have water sitting in them. Leave these filters open and occasionally throw a bucket of pond water over the media. If you have a bakkie shower that's fine - leave alone and perhaps throw a bucket of water over the top layer every now and again (the exercise will do you the world of good - he said pulling his stomach in .... )

5) If you have the equipment then add a few air stones to the BOTTOM of the pond. If you do not have a strong enough pump then use your compressors - even if it’s for an hour or two at a time.

6) Everything now depends on your stocking densities - if you are heavily stocked - you have a potential problem and you need to keep an eye on things. Any sign of piping or gulping on the surface turn the compressor on - you could use a swimming pool aluminium thingy (sorry pole) to direct air to the bottom of your pond when you have to - and get the water up to the atmosphere.

7) If you have pressurised filters - sand filters or bubble bead filters make sure you air bump AND back wash thoroughly before you start up again.

Cool Be grateful the lightning did not strike you or your house.

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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:22 am

Neville, I have just received notification that we will be off on Sunday from 07h00 to 18h00 for maintenance. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

Well over and above that my generator at home will have to manage the Koi, I have to bake a 1000 bread and manage coolers, deep freezers, perishables and ice cream at my store for the day. A big potential lost and no compensation, part of life's challenges.

My bigger concern is that this does not forecast a dark Sunday for the Weee Peee Rolling Eyes : and a sunny day for the men in orange. I had a similar omen last Saturday and it ended well for the WP

This could also be that the Wee Pee will party until the lights goes out. cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:46 am

Chris this is good idea,
Called, manual filtration. Should get our dam Town Clerc or Mayor to come do it.
After all we live in Africa.

Chris wrote:
If you have a bakkie shower that's fine - leave alone and perhaps throw a bucket of water over the top layer every now and again (the exercise will do you the world of good - he said pulling his stomach in .... )

Thanks for all the good advise, I did stop feeding yesterday and have added the air stones and all the nice things. Will monitor closely.

I suppose a state of the art gen set is the real solution, but what about all the money we gave the authorities to provide us with these services, suppose gone into bonuses.

The goose is dying.


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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:54 pm

nevill e 4 weke die transformer het uitgebrand en dit was die back up een die regte een het 2 jaar terug al uitgebrand en is nooit vervang nie so hulle moet nou `n back up vir `n back up in sit hehehehe die krag het aangeskop weer vanoggend hier onder by ons en die eerste huis het klaar afgebrand daardeur.Die brandweer was daar maar hulle het vergeet daars nie water in hulle voertuig se tank nie en die engines werk nie mooi krugersdorp die mense het alles verloor nie eers meer klere oor nie
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:17 pm

Hi Neville - a little off the subject - about the golden goose you mentioned ....

95,000 jobs were lost last month - in the USA.

There are power outages in California.

Las Vegas is dying as it will run out of water in 4 years.

When we were in Greece last month we found out some interesting things - they had no money so the Germans built the highway between the airport and Athens - the Germans get the revene for 20 years. The Chinese built the air port - and yes they get the revenue for 25 years. The government played silly buggers with the pension funds on the stock exchange and lost huge amounts of money - which is why they have had to REDUCE pension payments to everyone who gets them.

20% of people in the USA live on the poverty line.

And a great bit of usless information - really off the subject - in Britian the guy who is in control of the electrical supply to London (one of the worlds great cities) sits and watches TV in the evenings - why (I hope you ask) - well when the soapies are finished 1,500,000 kettles get turned on at the same time. So he has to activate a sub-station to start generating electricity if his normal supply falls below a certain level.

No about the outage in your area ...... ? Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:31 pm

neville ek kan ook nie my groot pomp hardloop nie maar die 0.75 trek hy en ek backfeed na die huis toe om die ligte te hardloop en die yskas hy trek dit darem
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:03 pm

Hi,

Het gister 13 uur sonder krag op my damme gewees, daar was geen probleem met suurstof nie, maar die ammonia het die hoogte in geskiet.

Gister aand 19h00 'n generator ( 6.5kVA Koste R 4 450) op gesit, hy trek maklik 3 x 1,1 kW en 1 x .75kW Quality Wink pompe.
Net een probleem...................die ding kan raas Rolling Eyes
Die krag was by my gister 15uur 15minute af (6H45 - 22h00) en vandag alweer vanaf 10h00 - 18h00
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:15 pm

Pieter, my 5.5 kw generator trek 7 low wattage pompies, 4 Uv's, koffie masjien en Tv, sorry ook 4 lugpompe
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:42 pm

Ek het simpatie met julle, dis erg kak sonder krag.
Sterkte.
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:15 am

Alet Rademeyer
Tientalle matrikulante aan die Wes-Rand kon nie eergister hul eindeksamen in rekenaartoepassingstegnologie aflę nie weens kragonderbrekings.

Ontstelde ouers het aan Beeld gesę dit is onaanvaarbaar dat hul kinders so benadeel word.

Die leerlinge was veronderstel om tussen 09:00 en 12:00 te skryf toe die elektrisiteit ’n uur voor die tyd afgegaan het. Die krag was gister steeds by onder meer die Hoërskool Monument, die Krugersdorp High School en die Hoërskool Noordheuwel af.

Mnr. J.P. du Toit, hoof van Monument, het gesę leerlinge kon nie eergister die eksamen aflę nie en die departement het aangedui dat hulle dit later sal moet doen.

Hy verstaan ouers se kommer omdat rekenaartoepassingstegnologie ’n “vaardigheidsvak” is en dat leerlinge wat nie toegang tot rekenaars het nie “uit oefening kan raak” as hulle die eksamen later moet aflę, het hy gesę.

Dr. Jac Fourie, hoof van die Hoërskool Noordheuwel, het gesę daar is gister vroegtydig reëlings getref dat leerlinge die inligtingstegnologie-eksamen by ’n naburige skool gaan aflę.

Verteenwoordigers van die departement was daar om toe te sien dat alles glad verloop.

Me. Sharon Green, adjunkhoof van die Krugersdorp High School, het gesę hulle bied nog nie rekenaartoepassingstegnologie aan nie en die een kandidaat wat inligtingstegnologie as vak het, is gister na die Hoërskool Riebeeck­rand in Randfontein om die eksamen af te lę. Krugersdorp High het nie gister water of elektrisiteit gehad nie.

Mnr. Charles Phahlane, onderwyswoordvoerder in Gauteng, het gesę die departement van basiese onderwys sal besluit wanneer kandidate die vraestel weer moet aflę. Hulle sal ook vroegtydig daaroor ingelig word.

Die meeste matrikulante begin op 25 Oktober met die eksamen.

Die Mogale City- munisipale gebied (Krugersdorp) is deur ’n erge kragonderbreking geraak toe ’n weerligstraal ’n Eskom-substasie eergister getref het.

Mnr. Nkosana Zali, woordvoerder van die munisipaliteit, het aan Amanda Roestoff gesę hulle werk hard daaraan om die probleme te herstel.
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:27 am

My 2 generators has been serviced this morning, extra fuel purchased and test runs done, ready for Sunday's maintenance.

Today, unfortunately my 2 favourite teams are having a head to head here under our mountain so I will be joining the Wee Pee party until the light goes out. cheers cheers waiting for the ...... bulletjies next week...... Cool Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:31 am

Nee Bobby, jy mag mos nou so praat nie. Die bulle is nir ter sprake nie
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:38 am

Hi Marius

Die Wee Pee is vrek bang vir die Vrystaters, hulle sal baie gels betaal om nie in die final teen die States te speel.

Lyk my ons krag probleem is uitgesorteer (hoop nie ek praat te gou) so ek sal ook die games kan sien.
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:42 am

Ai Maruis, sorry man.... maar ek moet nou 'n keuse maak, aangesien 'n WP vs Cheetahs final nou nie moontlik is nie, en ek wil graag die Final op Nuweland sien plaasvind. Indien die Sharks wen is ek nie seker waar die final sal plaasvind nie ?
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:52 am

Ja nee Bobby( ja nee is slegs in afrikaans beskikbaar) my vriend van Italie (wat niks van afrikaans weet nie) het my juis na sy wynplaas wat so 35km van hier af is genooi. Die man het so 5m liter wyndromme so sal maar die rugby daar gaan kyk en vir die beste hoop. As ek nie vannaand antwoord nie moet julle weet ek drink wyn omdat my span verloor het


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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:58 am

Bobby,

Dit werk glo so volgens die mense wat weet:

As die WP wen; en die Sharks verloor is die finaal op Nuweland.
As die Sharks wen; is die finaal in Durban
As die Vrystaat wen en die Sharks verloor is die finaal in Bloemfontein
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:02 pm

Genade. Hoop BLOEM se gastehuise word nie oorboek nie
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PostSubject: Re: Power Outage   Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:04 pm

So, maak nie saak wie wen nou, final in KZN Sad

Daai fanatiese Bulle ondersteuners tap darem nou daai vaatjies leeg om beter te kan voel, sterkte Maruis mag ons mooi Rugby sien Mad
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