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Cliff

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PostSubject: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptySun Dec 06, 2009 12:08 pm

Hopefully the critics like these ones more than the others....Twisted Evil

No1 - Shusui
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No2 - Purachina
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No3 - Metallic Sanke
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No4 - Sanke
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No5 - Goromo
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No6 - Showa
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Laughing Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptySun Dec 06, 2009 5:41 pm

I like he Purachina and Metallic. Beautiful
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptySun Dec 06, 2009 6:46 pm

Much better quality than the previous lot.
I also love the Purachina, just a bit skinny.
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptySun Dec 06, 2009 8:50 pm

I was waiting to see how the experts evaluate the body shape seeing I am of the opinion that your collection is generally speaking very skinny. What are you feeding and how many times per day? Could be that the photos are misleading!
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptySun Dec 06, 2009 10:24 pm

well was so depressed after my last fish post that I went and sold 80% of my fish this morning and went and bough all of these today. So if any are skinny it's not from me. If anything I overfeed. I feed shogun and now and then I mix shogun, clay, honey, garlic into doughy balls which I feed once a week. Also feed bloodWorm and frozen shrimp once a week.

Ill take a pic in 2 weeks again 2 compare.

Did my fish in my other post look skinny?
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptySun Dec 06, 2009 11:38 pm

Then your new Koi has something to look forward too, first take it slowly with the feeding in the beginning, give them time to adapt.

Building a Koi collection takes time, you will see as we all grow in the hobby we all aspire to better quality Koi, unfortunately they all come with a price tag.
For one person the ultimate is R2k the next R10k some purist R60k and for some this means R 400k. A very well known keeper said as long as the price and quality is relevant. At the end of the day it is the pleasure and enjoyment we get from our purchases that we are comfortable with.


Here is a Kohaku with a 4Mil yen price tag and even this Koi needs another year in a mud pond at this price.

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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 9:30 am

At today's exchange that is only R332,000.00 do you think they have 2 for me I'll take them both, by the way has anyone got a pic of the most expencive koi ever and for how much did it sell

I allso like the parachina.

Im also sitting with the same problem but can't get mine sold so I'm buildind a pond for my father in law and will give him my over stock so if any of them turn out to be a winner I ll take it back
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 9:52 am

The official photo of the 2006 All Japan Grand Champion.
A 8 year old Hiroshima Sakai Kohaku, Congratulations to the owners,Martin Plows and Mark Crampton.
Female and between 92-93cm.


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THE MASK

They paid 103 000 British Sterling for this fish!
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 10:01 am

affraid WOW
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 10:21 am

Shawn, some interesting info….

The current record price paid for a koi is $850,000.00,( but no pic!!!!)

http://www.sanangelopondsociety.com/freqaskedques.htm


Largest Koi in the UK

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488131/British-fish-fan-splashes-worlds-largest-koi-carp.html


Another big Koi

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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 10:50 am

Marius, we are now hijacking Cliff's post, the cost of the Kohaku is without commission and airfreight. Landing cost will be about R 400,000.00, how many shall I order for you. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 10:55 am

lol......was just about to say, been clicking on this hoping to hear i may have one or two with potential........at least all my posts get decent hits.

Have another 2 Sanke's that I gave up on trying to catch, will be posting those pics tonight or tomorrow night.

THe metallic sanke and the one I still have to post was told could be very very nice fish.......may even be able to show them, just want to know if it was a sales pitch or do you find it has potential, will post the other sanke asap.

Must say I am loving this purachina.....the white is so beautiful on it. And love the big fins, think it is so lovely to look at.
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 2:00 pm

the Purachina is stunning....
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 2:55 pm

Hope you kept the kohaku from last post it deserved a growiing season in your pond
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 2:58 pm

I kept the kohaku, the No1 (think he's nice, just different which I like) and also kept the beni komanryo.

Other than that I got rid of about 12 fish.

Will catch the rest and post when my back heals........lol
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 4:20 pm

Cliff,

I will be honest. I don’t like any of these fish!

Where did you purchase them?
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyMon Dec 07, 2009 6:16 pm

I bought them from loolilocks. They're their Israeli imports. Byron spent some time with me there and felt these were the best in he range I was looking in. apparently a day before someone else nearly cleaned out all their stock, which was just after the fish came out of quarantine so I timed it badly.

I'm very happy with what I got for what I was willing to spend for the intended purpose!
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyWed Dec 09, 2009 6:04 pm

This really gets me going. One buys from so called reputable dealers and pay a relative steepish price, the fish look good to you and the dealers convince you...

Examples:

Loolilocks- AAA Imported:
( I really liked the fish)

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Sandton Aquatic- AAA Imported

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Another one from Sandton Aquatic AAA- got sick a month later
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I found the show at Cresta also bad- sold to me as a Kumonryo by Joshua Koi:

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Initially

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Our relative new guys struggle and they take us for a ride???

And driving to Collin or Odendaalsrus is a bit of a mission..
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyThu Dec 10, 2009 1:35 pm

Well Cliff, I hope I didn't kill your post.

It frustrates me so much when you spend a few hundred or more, think you have a nice fish and then the experts say it is not good- I do not blame the experts, that's how we ask and learn, but the dealers???!

Any other opinions on this? Who are reputable that will really help you choosing a fish (I know and accept there is always a gamble- my one daughter turned into a swan!) and is not just in it for a few quick bucks?
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyThu Dec 10, 2009 2:44 pm

Quote :
my one daughter turned into a swan

If you're referring to the tall one then I say you're 100% correct Laughing

Well for the general look I am aiming for in my pond I think that the selection I have is what I am aiming for.

Do however still have 2 sankes, another doitsu, a grass carp, and a chagoi. One of these I'm very convinced Pieter will aprove of........need to at least get his approval on at least one of my damn fish.

If I don't then I'll be sending him the 3 ghosts of christmas past this coming weekend!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyThu Dec 10, 2009 3:29 pm

Yes, the tall one!

I posted something similar at the beginning of the year and then got rid of quite a number of fish. Most of the guys on the forum were relatively consistent. Have a look at the post.

My problem is with the dealers- all these fish were bought at koi farms, the Cresta show, Loolilocks, Koi Mecca, etc. My problem is that we buy, often with their advice, and a year later we let go of the so called good fish.

Can the guys recommend again?

https://koionline.forumotion.com/photos-of-the-good-bad-and-ugly-koi-f1/which-ones-would-you-get-rid-of-first-t603.htm
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PostSubject: Ugly koi   Some more of my fish EmptyThu Dec 10, 2009 4:14 pm

You guys are so lucky! My wife refuses to allow me to part with any of my koi...and I have some really ugly fish! One Bekko's name -named by her - is Kwasimodo. His head and body are not streamlined, and just behind the gill plate there is an angle to the left. He's about 50cm long. The other Hikarimujo has a bladder problem, so he's almost always pointing downwards at a 30 degree angle, but he allows her to hand feed him. He's about 70 cm.
Collin has suggested that I stick them in her bath and tell her that she could do with them what she wants, but they're not allowed in my pond! If I should take his advice I will only see my koi once a month when I will have visitation rights!
Most of my koi were 'gimme's' when a friend moved to a townhouse. At least I got some nice 'pond fish' with them, as I had to take the whole family.
So Albie and Cliff, I would really be 'pissed' if I had bought them! I got some really nice, small fish from Collin and Leanne...and now patiently wait for the ugly ones to disappear!
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyThu Dec 10, 2009 4:49 pm

My golden rule "Keep the fish that your wife likes". Don't even think of getting rid of them!! But she would love the chagoi to go!
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyThu Dec 10, 2009 4:59 pm

Hi all,

First of all, no matter what who says about you Koi, it remains your Koi! You are the one having joy looking at them, feeding them and care for them.
If someone asks me for my opinion regarding his Koi, remember it is only my humble opinion, I am not a Koi judge, and I am a Koi keeper like all of you. I have ugly Koi with sentimental value as well, but hell, they are mine!
I must agree that some dealers are not up too standard regarding Koi knowledge by their sale staff, and the staff will tell you any “cock ‘n bull” story to make a sale.
I have found that dealers where the owners are present most of the time and dealing with the customers direct are more reliable.
These dealers have a reputation to uphold and therefore they will not sell you a “pond-spawn” claiming that it is a potential “Show Champion”
Remember that a cheap Koi is only that, good Koi comes at a prize!
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PostSubject: Re: Some more of my fish   Some more of my fish EmptyThu Dec 10, 2009 5:50 pm

Thanks Pieter

We value your input (mostly!!)
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