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PostSubject: waarna om te kyk   waarna om te kyk Icon_minitimeSun Jun 27, 2010 10:38 am

waarna moet ek kyk as ek wil weet of die koi wat ek wil koop `n groot koi gaan wees of klein gaan bly

Is verskillende koi meer aktief as ander
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PostSubject: Re: waarna om te kyk   waarna om te kyk Icon_minitimeSun Jun 27, 2010 12:27 pm

Spesie, Body shape en hy moet n skof he boet.
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PostSubject: Re: waarna om te kyk   waarna om te kyk Icon_minitimeMon Jun 28, 2010 10:18 am

As jy die vis se ouers kan sien soveel beter.
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PostSubject: Re: waarna om te kyk   waarna om te kyk Icon_minitimeMon Jun 28, 2010 11:29 am

Hi Vossie

Is dalk in Engels maar WayneB het vir my die volgende gegee wat ek probeer om te gebruik.

wayneb wrote:
Hi LJ042

Instead of me telling you this is good and that is bad let me rather give you 17 things to look at before buying a koi .

1. Luster. A sick fish will not have luster. Luster can be tought of as the fish shining so healthy it is. a dull koi usually have parasites.

2. Skin. Always ask the dealer to bowl the koi for you in a blue bowl. Blue makes the koi stress. When a koi stresses the red veins can sometimes be seen from under the skin. Koi with a thin skin will show veins, they will be clearly visible and these koi dont do good at koi shows. Dont get confused between the white ground colour and the skin.

3. Fukerin A koi with fukerin (a shiny scale somewhere on the fish) means that - that is the best skin quality that the fish can give you. Its a very good indication.

4. Fins. Are all the fins presents? Are their any deformaties or damage?

5. Gill plates. Are the fish breathing normal or irratic. Does the gill plates cover the gills? irratic or fast breathing can indicate a possible parasite problem.

6. Body conformation. The overall appearance of the body. Is the koi thin, belly heavy? Does it appear to short? Does the tail appear to thin? Is the head in proportion with the body. If you view the koi in a plastic bag from the side. Is the tail straight or does it point up slightly?

7. Bone structure. Does the koi have a hump? or a back bone standing out? Those are all things to look for in koi that will grow big.

8. Scales. Are the scales all the same type? Are the scales think or thin? In Doits koi you have to look for roque scales. Thin scales indicate that the koi has a weak bone structure and that it wont grow very big.

9. Tail tube. The tail tube of a koi is where one can observe the muscle of the koi. If it is think then one can expect the koi to grow big.

10. Whiskers. The more refined a koi, the smaller its whiskers usually and the smaller it grows. The closer the koi is to the real carp the bigger the whiskers. The bigger the whiskers the bigger the koi will grow. Japanses breeders have been crossing gosanke that is refined with magois to gain the grow and size if the original carp.

11. Eyes. Are they present? a Kohaku with a blueish ring around the eye indicates that its infact from a sanke spawning and that means that the kohaku might develop black markings with time. Red Eyes on Ogons indicate that they are not pure Ogon X Ogon spawninigs. Red Eyes are usually saught after but it is and indication that the koi was from a cross breeding.

12. Swimming style Look at the swimming pattern. This can sometimes tell you if there are internal problems or even parasites on the koi. Is the koi swimming in a jerking manner or is it a slow graciouse movement. Is it flashing?

13. Mouth. Is the mouth straight/Deformed? A big mouth is also a indication of the potential size of a koi.

14. Colour. This differs from variety to variety. Basicly you have to take a book like living jewels and go and look at what the colours on young koi should be like.

15. Sashi & Kiwa This could also fall under colour or pattern but its important to check it on gosanke.

16. Pattern. This also differs from variety to variety.

17. Gender. What sex is the koi? Female obviously grows bigger so everyone wants female koi. There are a few places one can check but i suggest you read up about it yourself.

Always :
1) ask the dealer to turn the koi for you upside down so you can see its belly.
2) bag your new koi before buying it and lift it up so you can see it from the side.

Why do i check? Injuries and with shiro utsuri for example small tosai sometimes have very light yellow or orange colour spots underneath that just become more and darker with time.

Most of us always just look at colour and pattern. Look at my avatar. It does not have a balanced pattern but yet its a very good quality koi as it has luster, good skin, body shape and colour. If you look at my knysna shiro utsuri also on this forum you will see it has good colour and skin but very bad body conformation and swimming style. The pattern should really be the last things we look at but i myself also get dazeled by a nice pattern and then i forget all the other things.


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PostSubject: Re: waarna om te kyk   waarna om te kyk Icon_minitimeMon Jun 28, 2010 11:55 am

Vossie,

Die heel eerste ding waarna jy moet kyk as jy Koi koop is om te sien of die Koi gesond is.
Laat die handelaar die vis wat jy in die oog het in 'n bak plaas soos dat jy dit goed kan bekyk.

Let op die volgende:
1:Swem die vis normaal?
2:Rooi merk of skubbe wat op lig en stukkende merke aan die kop of lyf.
3.Opgeswelde plek of knop op die lyf, of 'n gebuigde lyf.
4.Verlies van enige vinne
5.Gekrulde, split, stukende of ongesonde vinne. (Rooi vinne)
6.Groot kop en maer lyf
7.Opgeswelde Kiefplate of kiewe wat nie mooi toemaak nie.
8.Beserings aan die oe of mond
9.As die vis nie in die verkoops dam saam met die ander swem nie, en net eenkant stil le.

As die Koi enige een van die bostaande het, moet jy nie die vis koop nie.

As daar dooie vis in die verkoops dam is, of die water in die dam "melkerig" is, moet jy nie koop nie.

As die Koi jou inspeksie slaag kan jy na die volgende kyk soos wat die vorige ouens gepos het.
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dankie manne dit help al baie
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PostSubject: Re: waarna om te kyk   waarna om te kyk Icon_minitimeThu Jul 08, 2010 8:49 am

Vossie gaan koop n vis sit hom op die forum laat ons kan sien of jy jou huiswerk gedoen het neem al die punte genoem in gedagte
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PostSubject: Re: waarna om te kyk   waarna om te kyk Icon_minitimeThu Jul 08, 2010 1:02 pm

frans ek gaan dit ingedagte hou as ek na costa toe gaan maar onthou ek koop koi vir die pond en nie vir skou nie so daar gaan foute wees anders sal die handelaar hom anyway nie cheap laat gaan nie
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