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PostSubject: Most popular breeds   Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:13 pm

Hi Everyone,

Just out of curiosity what is the most popular breed of koi?

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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:15 pm

Hi Dave for clarificatrion are you referring to Koi variants or breeders / bloodline ?
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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:30 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:37 pm

In my opinion it would be the Go-Sanke, which is the Kohaku, Sanke and Showa, followed by the Shiro Utsiri. Well that is mainly what is in my collection and I love watching them.
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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:25 am

Go-Sanke of which Kohaku are at the top.

Most hobbyists start and end with Kohaku and you will very seldom see a collection without a Kohaku.

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PostSubject: most popular   Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:01 am

I think if you looked at which koi are there more of in peoples ponds from the garden collector to the serious hobbyist, I would say about 30% of that total would be ogon or kohaku of some form
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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:50 am

Hi,

I would think, it is a toss-up between Ogon and "Bling" Koi.
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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:40 pm

Thanks, everyone!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:45 pm

If i have to take an guess i would say its Yellow and white Ogons and as pieter said the "bling, bling" variaties. if you ask a woman what koi she likes 90% of the time she will point out a yellow ogon the other 10% of the time she wont have an opinion...propably no yellow ogon in the pond. geek

The more seriouse koi keepers (or atleast the once that know the names of the variaties) tend to go for gosanke, utsurimono and asagi/shesui. The other variaties are more commerical for the "not so serious" koi keepers.

My father has some koi and almost all the kois are ogons or doits bling, bling variaties. There's not a single gosanke in his collection not even a crappy looking kohaku or sanke.

When my father and my brothers started the koi pond 2-3 years ago i was given strict instructions that they did not want any spotty kois "gevleke kois" and unfortunaly gosanke and utsurimono falls under their spotty koi category. They wanted kois that are solid red, yellow, white, black, brown and blue....the blue kois where a challenge but luckily i found a few asagis without hi.

I bought them a beautiful 12cm malaysian kohaku once when they came to visit me and this koi mysteriously died while being transported while all the others survived.
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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:17 pm

Thanks Wayneb,

The reason why I am asking is because-

I might imort some koi from Japan,

These are what i\'m looking at:

From Urakawa (Torazo)- who is know for his Kohakus and Sankes:

High Quality-Kohaku\'s
Size-14cm-16cm

High Quality-Sankes
Size-14cm-16cm

Kaneko Koi farm-Who began breeding in 196, Kujyaku, Shiro Utsuri, Kohaku, Showa, Sanke, Hikari Mono and Kawarimono.:

High Quality-Shiro Utsuri\'s
Size-14cm-16cm

Please help me out on what to chose, I can only choose two of the three options. These young koi are going to be sold to collectors. At competetove prices.

Thanks Everyone,

David


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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:46 pm

Any choice you make will be ok. Torazo specialises in both sanke and kohaku and kaneko in shiro utsuri. So you win whetever you pick.

I think torazo is slightly more known for their sanke than kohaku but their kohakus are also exellent.

If it where me then i would go for kohaku and utsuris, sankes are difficult to breed and proper looking sankes are few. One never really get proper sankes as tosai. You will most propably end up with aka sankes.


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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:46 pm

Dave wrote:
Thanks Wayneb,

The reason why I am asking is because-

I might imort some koi from Japan,

These are what i'm looking at:

From Urakawa (Torazo)- who is know for his Kohakus and Sankes:

High Quality-Kohaku's
Size-14cm-16cm

High Quality-Sankes
Size-14cm-16cm

Kaneko Koi farm-Who began breeding in 196, he specializes in gosanke's and shiro utsuris:

High Quality-Shiro Utsuri's
Size-14cm-16cm

Please help me out on what to chose, I can only choose two of the three options. These young koi are going to be sold to collectors. At competetove prices.

Thanks Everyone,

David

Hi David

Just 2 things on my mind.

1) Serious Koi collectors don't buy koi @ 14 to 16 cm the risk is too high, only General Koi keepers do.

2) Kaneko doesn’t specialize in Gosanke but definitely in Kujaku, Shiro Utsuri, Benikiokuryu & Hikarimono. I should know I visit him every year for the past 7 years.
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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:48 pm

Thanks for your inputs, and wow I wouldn't mind going on a koi trip to Japan. Collin do you have any pictures of your trips?


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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:51 pm

Hi Dave

Sankes and shiro utsurimono,s, there is lots of good khohako,s around
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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:55 pm

Dave wrote:
Thanks for your inputs, and wow I wouldn't mind going on a koi trip to Japan. Collin do you have any pictures of your trips?


Thanks,

David

Yes, a bit i think about 300GB
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PostSubject: Re: Most popular breeds   Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:56 pm

Thanks Neville!!! Smile

collin is there any chance that you could post or email pictures from last year, I can't see enough of them. It's so awesome seeing them do what they do with koi aswell as seeing their setups Smile
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