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PostSubject: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:20 pm

New fish I got today, maybe not show quality, I just go for what I like and thought I would show them here. I dont really know what to look for..geek The pectorial fin on one is a bit shredded Crying or Very sad hopefully it will grow again. you can see in the 2nd pic 2nd from the left.

Also they were swimming so fast that some of the pics are not good. What a mission to get pics. Surprised Razz
Did I pick any good fish?






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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:28 pm

Very nice, especially the ginrin Showa, the first Kohaku and the Tancho Kohaku.

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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:09 pm

Thank you!
Is the ginrin showa the first fish on the top of the first pic? I know the kohaku, but which one is the Tancho Kohaku? I need to learn the names. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:30 pm

First pic (from the top)

Ginrin Showa
Hi Utsuri
Ginrin Kohaku
Ginrin Kujaku (underneath Kohaku)
Showa
Tancho Kohaku
Shiro Utsuri

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Ginrin Yamabuki Ogon (Yellow)
Kohaku
Ginrin Tancho showa
Ginrin Tancho sanke(maybe showa)
Ginrin Hariwake

2nd last pic


Ginrin Kujaku
Kujaku

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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:35 pm

I like the koi in the 3 first pictures the most, the one showa in pic 2 next to the Shiro Utsuri i dont like.
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:47 pm

Thanks Paul.
oh yes, that makes sense - Its not so hard to put the names with each one now.
I have a rough idea of names, but thought that one was called a tancho, never heard it called a Tancho Kohaku before. Guess I will learn.

I agree with you Wayne, looking at that Showa now, I see its messy. the guy in the shop kept showing me another Showa and telling me that it was a better choice, something about colours still to come out, and it would develop. I should have listened. silent
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:54 pm

Stumble,

that showa we discussed, can you have a look at how it swims...in the first and 2nd picture its body seems funny. I cant put my finger on it.

the ginrin showa i like....just please check that it can close its mouth and that is not a problem..its open in all the photos.

I like the Hi Utsuri as well (Moenie vir Bobby se nie)

I would also like a more closeup on that Shiro Utsuri.
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:01 pm

Oh I see what you mean.
I went to have another look at him, and he is swimming perfectly.

I guess that wasn't the best time to take pics. The guys were in their salt bath (except the last pic) and they were all doing funny things and losing their balance slightly, they wernt happy. I left them for 10 mins and watched them closely then took them out. They all seem calm and fine now.
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:05 pm

The mouths were open as they were gasping. I felt sorry for them, they hated the salt bath. They are in their quarantine tank now, and much calmer.
The Kujaku's didnt seem fazed about the salt.
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:07 pm

Overall a nice collection.

Your best kois in my opinion, in no specific order.
1. Ginrin Showa
2. Ginrin Kohaku
3. Shiro Utsuri
4. Hi Utsrui.


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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:07 pm

The shiroji(white background) of your ginrin showa is the type what you should look for. Pure snow white and shows good skin quality. The black will consolidate and develop. Nice balance between red white and black.


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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:11 pm

wayneb wrote:
3. Shiro Utsuri

Head is going to be too black with no interesting pattern on head.

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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:15 pm

Shiros en Showas is maar moeilike dinge...hulle veras jou die heel tyd want die patroon skyf rond en mature baie later. Mens kan nie 'n klein shiro koop en rerig sy potentiaal voorspel nie. Pattern comes last remember. Wink

Maar ek aanvaar ek het 'n bietjie van 'n soft spot vir shiro utrsuris. Wink



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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:19 pm

Hi Stumble
It is nice fish I think all of them they are still very young to really get excited. Feed them well and lets have another look in 2 or 3 months. I would like to see the Hi come out a bit stronger then they will be great. I specially like the showas.

Nice fish
You will be surprised what they might look like come show time.
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:22 pm

Hi Stumble, very nice collection. Where did you get them from?
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:32 pm

wayneb wrote:
Pattern comes last remember. Wink


Yes Wayne, that is what a lot of people say, including text books, but they still consider pattern as fairly important.

It is almost as if they do not always practice what they preach?

To me personally, pattern is quite important. Look at the Ginrin Hariwake on this post. It will never win a price because of the lack of pattern, although it has got very nice features apart from pattern.

When an Utsuri is almost all black on the head when this small, it will become very dark when large. I like an interesting lightning strike or V-shaped menware which is also desireable, however, this is still a fairly nice Utsuri.

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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:42 pm

Patroon op meeste shiro utsuris is on voorspelbaar. As tosai en selfs 2 jaar oud sal niemand hierdie koitjie hier onder gekoop het nie...Maar ek verstaan wat jy se...ek dink die koi skoue maak dinge erger.

Vir my is patroon meer belangrik by kohaku en sanke. Shiros en showas kan mens rerig eers evaluaeer hier by 3-4 jaar. Dit is ook waar dat minder swart op klein shiros beter is want hulle word gewoonlik dongerder. Op die oomblik lyk my JGC se kop nog kaaler en hy verloor swart op sy kom die heeltyd....weet nie hoekom nie. Ek neem photos van hom om die beweeg van die swart dop tehou.

Ek lees dat die japanese breeders kwaad raak omdat ons westerse mense so ongeduldig is....hulle glo dat 'n koi oor jare potentiaal bereik maar ons wil die vis nou koop en more skou en 'n prys wen.

As dit by doits en metalics kom dan weet ek niks...ek ken nie 'n goeie van n slegte nie. confused


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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:07 pm

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The shiroji(white background) of your ginrin showa is the type what you should look for. Pure snow white and shows good skin quality. The black will consolidate and develop. Nice balance between red white and black.


ye that one is one of my favourites. Just needs fattening up a bit.
Good to know what to look out for. drunken
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:09 pm

Wayne, I will take better closeups when I move them to the main pond in a few weeks time. they are just chilling now. lol
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:11 pm

Thanks Neville. Hope they get better with time. Its hard to know what to pick, with so many choices and not knowing how they will change.

EdHall I got them in Durban from Koi@Jungle - they had some stunning fish there.
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:38 am

Hi Stumble

Very nice collection. I like the Ginrin Yamabuki Ogon the best Smile
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:36 am

thanks David. I don't know what to look for but was a bit dissapointed that the head was a little faded.
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:46 pm

Well the Ginrin Yamabuki Ogon faded head is nice yellow again. I don't know if that was from stress. They are all looking stunning.
Will be going in the main pond in a week or so. I will take pictures. I swear they have grown in these few weeks. tongue
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:58 pm

I moved these guys to the main pond today.
What a battle to get decent pics - most are grainy. The weather changed by the minute, and I kept forgetting to adjust my camera, and the koi were not cooperating. I must say they are a very lively healthy bunch.

I love how clean this Tancho is.






Okay this ogon refused to have his pic taken, so this is the best I could get. this guy's colouring is also really nice.
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PostSubject: Re: My New additions   Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:03 pm

Some more

these guys were impossible to photograph.


this Utsuri kept jumping out affraid




This guy is so easy to photograph. He's the only one to actually stand still. lol
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