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PostSubject: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeSat Feb 06, 2010 12:24 pm

Asagi's are very difficult koi. They almost always get too dark with age. They are usually nice upto 40cm thereafter they become very dark and spotty. This one that i found is very light but one can already see the small little black speckles on the row of scales running down the length of the body next to his dorsal fin other than that this is a very good specimen.

One must remember that there is no such thing as blue or gray pigmentation with koi and the blue that we are seeing is infact black, its just the concentration of pigmentation cells that gives it a diffirent appearance.

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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 8:36 am

Now this is my kinda koi, looks stunning......
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 8:40 am

Thanks Adi, there are some demerits....im just waiting for someone to point it out. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 8:48 am

must be honest, I either like or not like, and this fish is stunning. Hope it will stay like this......
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 9:02 am

I noticed that there is some carp pox on the pectoral fins...thats a demerit.


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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 9:10 am

Hmm what are you going to do?
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 9:15 am

Hi Adi, im going to grow it to about 40cm and then re-evaluate it.

I hope that the carp pox will go away. Ernst believe that cleaning the affected area and washing it with Virkon S will take the carpox away for ever but he is to small to try that right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 9:26 am

Sometimes less is more. Amazed still how though koi are. Have one with a half missing gillcover. First thought of taking that fish out, but now he is fine, gills exposed, but he is doing well. Will never make a koi show.......
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 10:32 am

Hi Wayne

How important are the red eyes on the Asagi ?

The scale reticulation is pretty hard to judge from the pics seen as it has such light coloring.

Seems to have very little high on the cheeks, im told its preferred ?

Hi at the seem of the dorsal fin also preferred or not ?


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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2010 11:23 am

Hi Lee

I dont know about the eyes. Yes the scalation is very difficult right now...this is where it might fail down the road. As far as i know red on the dorsal fin or anywhere on back of the the asagi is a demerit unless its a hi asagi.

According to the Living Jewels book. Page 44

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Appreciation
- Vivid blue colouring on back
- Precisely alighned scalation to appear like netting.
- Evenly sized scales
- Deep hi markings
- As near to white as possible on the head
- A rounded body without sagging belly
- Symmetrical hi markings on face and fins

Demerits
- Hi on the back
- Dark smears or stains on bald head
- Blue to dark
- Faulty alighment of the scales or rows of scales
- Too little or too much hi on the abdomen
- Black edge to the hi marking on the abdomen

Quote :
Because Asagi increase their hi year after year, it is wise to select a young Asagi with as small as possible a hi pattern, preferably confined to the lower abdomen.

This is a Hi Asagi. This also happens to normal asagis if the hi is too high on the sides.

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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 1:05 pm

This is one of my Asagi's that I sold a while ago, although I liked it.

Asagi Chagoi

The definition of the Asagi is not bad, the head is clean, and the balance is good and the red on the side comes up to the lateral line and stop and the allignment of the scales are good. ? Unfortunately the red extends a bit too high close to the tail. It has red in the dorsal and pectoral fins, which is normally an indication that the Hi is more stable and will not go above the lateral line. The coloration are even throughout the net, and the net effect is fairly good.

One of the best Asagi's I have seen is the Ginrin that Pieter fairly recently bought. Can not find the photo. Maybe he can post it again.

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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 5:16 pm

Nice asagi paul, the red is a bit too high up and wou;d propably flar up with time but the scalation on it is very good.
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 6:22 pm

Wyane that fish is actually a Hi-Asagi.
Not too bad a one either.
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 7:29 pm

Thanks David, What is the diff between an asagi and a hi asagi? I always thought a hi asagi was only when the red overlapped the back like the picture higher up.
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 7:58 pm

eish man wayne.

do you have the servaas de kock book?
I have the one called Koi.
Pg48. there is a nice pic.

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http://www.mankysanke.co.uk/html/japanese_dictionary.html
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 8:07 pm

I see the pic but what is the actual requirements for classification as Hi Asagi? How much Hi must be on its back? If you look at the pic on the left of Hi-Asagi on page 48 you will see it also has some (very little) hi on its back but is named just asagi.


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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 8:12 pm

wayneb wrote:
, the red is a bit too high up and wou;d propably flar up with time .

Hi Wayne

It will not change much, as it was already 60 cm and four years old when I took the pic. It looks like a small fish because it is next to a 96 cm Chagoi.

I had to fly these fish to a client in Johannesburg but found that my box was too small for the Chagoi when I started to bag and box them. In the battle to handle the large Chagoi alone, and with a time limit to be at the airport at a certain time, I fell down my bridge with the chagoi and it sustained an injury. So I decided to send it at a later stage if the buyer still wants it.

When I came back from the airport after sending the Asagi and Utsuri, I found that the Chagoi jumped out due to the fact that I did not close the net properly because of my hurry to get to the airport, and it was dead. Sad

A few K down the drain, as I obviously had to reimburse the buyer.

This is one of the battles of being a koi dealer.

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It will not change much, as it was already 60 cm and four years old when I took the pic. It looks like a small fish because it is next to a 96 cm Chagoi.

Indeed, lol. It look like its 30cm. Do you have a pic of it when it was younger?

How did you teach the 3 kois to parallel park so nicely for the photo? lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 8:17 pm

eish, eina paul, sorry to hear that man.
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeTue Feb 16, 2010 1:31 pm

Pieter J de Villiers wrote:
Hi,

check out this Asagi!

http://www.koibito-southafrica.com/offers/sansai-asagi-hq


Very nice indeed, so clean but i still love your GinRin Asagi Pieter.I like how the high has more of a presence and contrast nicely.


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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeTue Feb 16, 2010 2:57 pm

Thanks Lee,

But remember it will be judge as a GinRin B and not under Asagi.
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PostSubject: Re: Asagi   Asagi Icon_minitimeWed Feb 02, 2011 3:09 pm

Now this is what you call an Asagi. Last week's winner at the All Japan Koi Show: (Best in variety)

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Shocked amazing how clean its head is and how perfectly balance the high is.
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