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PostSubject: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:42 pm

A keeper wanted me to post this Koi and ask for your comments!

22cm 15mths old, picture taken at 11months, Sakai bloodline

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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:47 pm

Booby,


I like this Koi! At 50cm + it will be stunning!
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:50 pm

Hell,

Can't edit..................but Booby and Bobby are close enough! Embarassed Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:01 pm

I personally love a Kohaku with one pattern stretching throughout the whole body from head to tail like a ligtning strike(Also called Inazuma Kohaku)

The balance is perfect, because when large, the white and red is going to be almost equal. (Fairly heavy but I like heavy patterns), and front to back and left to right, very balanced.

Some judges do not like a mask. However, I have seen Kohaku's with masks (red over eyes) win Grand Champion. Pattern is important when small, but by the time it reach maturity, pattern is not that important anymore.

Perfect adome (tailstop), deep hi, snow white shiroji, good kiwa and shasi and good body shape for it's size and the bloodline tells us alot. What more can you ask for.

I like it very much.

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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:58 pm

The quality is there , but the pattern is not my cup of tea.
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:39 pm


Love Inazuma - another good example above.

Great pattern - love full pattern koi. Agree with Pual on balance of pattern for future - should balance nicely. Odome is not ideal. Red appears to be breaking up at back end - but I assume this could just be the photo. Pecs are not uniform - could also be photo. I have no problem with the mask - I enjoy the unconvetionality of it. Size is small for 15 months though - just need to push the feeding.
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:50 am

Bobby wrote:
A keeper wanted me to post this Koi and ask for your comments!
22cm 15mths old, picture taken at 11months, Sakai bloodline
Sorry correction. She is now 32cm. My initial thoughts was also that she is very small for her age.
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:01 am

Looking at the detail of the feedback, Paul you and Quinton should really attend the judges course in JNB (JHB for Pieter) and represent the Western Cape. Maybe you could also convince Drikus and Ernst to join.

Quinton are you ready to present our February monthly meeting or Pond Safari with a talk on picking Tossai ? The WCKC members can benefit from your experience on the subject of picking and the growing of Tossai.
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:07 am

Bobby wrote:
Paul you and Quinton should really attend the judges course in JNB

Hi Bobby, I applied for the course at the end of January but was rejected because I am "commercially involved" with koi. Sad SAKKS and ZNA rules.

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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:11 am

Bobby wrote:

Quinton are you ready to present our February monthly meeting or Pond Safari with a talk on picking Tossai ? The WCKC members can benefit from your experience on the subject of picking and the growing of Tossai.
On second thoughts, I have not seen your's and seeing you are the keeper, Soutie's grow and show yet!!! geek

Drikus and Christie measures my Hi-Utsuri after only 10days out of Qt and it's already now at 27cm. So Drikus and the rest of you the show is on, I have not even used my secret ingredient for growing this into a monster. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:19 am

Hi Sorry Paul
It was mentioned that you might be attending. Does this mean that you can also not attend the opening week-ends training? Well I am sure your knowledge must be on par with the opening week-end's training and that the full judges course is what you are really after.
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:33 am

Yes, anybody may attend the "koi appreciation course" over the weekend(30th and 31st at Monte Casino), but I don't think it is worth it for me to fly up for this course. Still considering.

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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:13 pm

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Hi Bobby, I applied for the course at the end of January but was rejected because I am "commercially involved" with koi. SAKKS and ZNA rules.

Waar staan dit nogal geskryf? In watter reels? Dis BS!
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:27 pm

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Yes, anybody may attend the "koi appreciation course" over the weekend(30th and 31st at Monte Casino), but I don't think it is worth it for me to fly up for this course. Still considering.

Is this course open to beginner hobbyists as well, or is it for the more knowledgeable? If so, I would like to attend. I see that on the SAKKS website applications needed to be submitted by end Nov 2009...or is that for the judging.
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:39 pm

Rene Schoenmaker is in charge of the course. I have send you his cell number via PM.

Email: rene@bergflora.com

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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:36 pm

Jack you are now making a big mistake my friend.
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:41 pm

Phillip Muller is a Qualify ZNA judge and a breeder dealer and is still judging for SAKKS.
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:45 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:31 pm

So i see yuo guys like my fish.

Very Happy

I am really excited to see how she turns out. She's been growing well this summer.
cheers

QJones - Both queries you raised where due to the picture.

K@k photographer.
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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:45 pm

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Bobby wrote:
Paul you and Quinton should really attend the judges course in JNB

Hi Bobby, I applied for the course at the end of January but was rejected because I am "commercially involved" with koi. Sad SAKKS and ZNA rules.

Wat!? hoe is Phillip Mulder van knysna koi farm dan 'n judge?

En wat van Larry? maak hy nie koi kos of iets nie, wat van die bio beo produkte wat hy die verspreider van is?.....klink vir my na 'n baie dun leintjie wat geloop word maar eks seker die SAKKS judgning komitee weet wat om te doen vir die voordeel van die stokperdtjie.


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PostSubject: Re: Your critique on this Kohaku please   Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:48 pm

Sorry, ek het nie gesien Collin het klaar dit genoem nie.

Ek het belang gestel maar die onkostes is vir jou eie sak as jy wil leer judge en Mike het vir my genoem hulle soek net mense wat regtig judges wil word. Ek wou net meer gaan leer en nie 'n regte judge word nie want ek is nie so ryk dat ek die wereld net sommer kan rondvlieg vir koi nie.
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