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PostSubject: Help   Help Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 12:09 pm

Posted on behalf of Moeketsi Wesi:

Hi there,



I have just got hooked to koi fish.



I got my self some koi to experiment, they seem to die from the same disease. Se attached picture?



Can you help or recommend where to get help.

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PostSubject: Re: Help   Help Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 12:47 pm

This is open to discussion and each memeber in here would probably treat this problem differently.

I would do the following:
Treat the water as it seems like the bacteria problem has already become too intense and I doubt that salt would do the trick here...

Water treatment as indicated on the below sites:
http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/treatments/potassium%20permanganate.htm
http://www.koiadventures.co.za/Home.aspx?Page=UsrGeneric.ascx&Rec=295

I would also take all surviving koi showing these symptoms (ulcers) and administer anti-biotic injections. I prefer to use Amikacin as it works well. I use the human variant of 250mg/2ml. Will supply my dosage amounts if you need it.
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PostSubject: Re: Help   Help Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 1:20 pm

Hi,

Firstly, no diagnoses can be made unless the following was established:
1. Pond volume
2. Amount of fish
3. Filter system
4. The time the pond is running.
5. The mortality rate.
6. Water parameter readings

Looking at the fish in the photo, the following is evident;
1. There is evidence of a possible bacterial infection
2. This plus the presents of ulcers, could be a secondary infection to a parasite outbreak.

I suggest that scraps and swaps to be taken from the Koi, to establish are any parasites are present and if the bacterium’s infection are Gram-positive or Gram-negative.
This information would enable you to apply the appropriate medication.

A shotgun approach could cause more damage!

Also read:
http://southafricankoi.11.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=26
http://southafricankoi.11.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=40
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PostSubject: Re: Help   Help Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 9:31 am

Ek verstaan 100% wat jy se Pieter maar jy moet ook verstaan dat nie almal mikroskope ens tot hulle beskikking het nie, en nog minder die hulp van mense wat so hulpvol is soos julle op die forum nie. Hier in PE is dit 'n MOERSE geheim as dit kom by Koi. Mens kry nie die lekker goed hier te koop waarvan julle so praat nie en mense help jou glad nie!

Ek het 'n probleem gehad met bakteria en die behandeling wat ek aanbeveel het, het vir my gewerk. PP help tog vir parasiete en bakteria...

Stem wel saam dat die ou bietjie meer inligting kan gee oor sy dam sodat mens toekomstige probleme kan vermy. Dit kan wel wees dat sy "setup" die oorsaak is van die probleme. Slegte filtrasie, stress faktore, water kwaliteit, te veel visse ens ens.... My aanbeveling bo sal die probleem nou verbeter maar hy sal weer 'n probleem ondervind as hy nie die oorsaak ook regmaak nie.
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PostSubject: Re: Help   Help Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 10:01 am

Chris,

In 'n opsig is jy tog ook reg. 'n Mikroskoop is 'n moet by enige persoon met 'n Koi versameling. My eerste een was van Toys "r" Us, deel van 'n chemiese stel, en dit het goed gewerk (was ongeveer R 450-00)

Daar is 'n paar (gif soorte) medesyne middels wat ek ook sal by sweer nl. Sout, PP en SeponverPlus.
Om te verhoed dat jy geen parasiete kry nie is daar net een ding wat werk en dit is Knoffel!

Indien jy daar in PE probleme ondervind stel ek voor jy kontak vir Roy Butterton by 043 748 4493 wat jou met graagte sal bystaan.
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PostSubject: Re: Help   Help Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 10:22 am

Ek het al gereeld met Roy gepraat. Hy is baie hulpvol en is altyd meer as gewillig om te help!

Ek kry nou my Koi by Phillip Muller in Knysna. Hy is net 'n oorvloed van wysheid as dit kom by Koi en is net soos Roy altyd gewillig om te help en raad te gee.

Om te kom by wat jy gese het. Die beste middels vir my is: Sout, PP, Virkon S, Acriflavin. Ek hoor orals van Seponver Plus en hoe goed dit is maar ek kry dit nie hier in die hande nie.
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PostSubject: Re: Help   Help Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 10:47 am

Chris,

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Ek hoor orals van Seponver Plus en hoe goed dit is maar ek kry dit nie hier in die hande nie.

Paul kan jou daarmee help.
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PostSubject: Re: Help   Help Icon_minitimeWed Nov 18, 2009 9:33 am

Pieter, het jy dalk vir my Paul se kontak besonderhede!!
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PostSubject: Re: Help   Help Icon_minitimeWed Nov 18, 2009 10:29 am

Chris,

weet nie hoekom hy nog nie reageer het nie, hy is die Admin van hierdie forum!

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PostSubject: Re: Help   Help Icon_minitimeWed Nov 18, 2009 1:31 pm

Hi Chris

R 95 'n botteltjie, 100ml, plus R 30.00 posgeld. Dosis 4.4 ml/1000 liter, sien PM vir bankbesonderhede.

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