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Admin Admin

Posts: 1283 Join date: 2007-07-25 Location: Cape Town
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:26 pm | |
| I would have done my slopes a bit different to enable me to place the two bottoms drains much further apart. Currently they are very close together, however, you have a fairly steep slope to the middle where both drains are situated, so you will hopefully not have problems. The pond appears to be a bit shallow but will work quite well. Keep us posted with further developments. |
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DAVID
Posts: 63 Join date: 2009-02-19 Age: 43 Location: WITPOORTJIE ROODEPOORT S.A
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:06 pm | |
| The pond will be 1.5 m at the shallow end's and 2.3 at the deep end. The wall's are not finished yet. Ther is about a 20 degree slop on each side to the middle of the pond. It is not to late for changes what do you suggest about the slopes. |
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Admin Admin

Posts: 1283 Join date: 2007-07-25 Location: Cape Town
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:29 pm | |
| Hi David. If it is 2.3 and 1.5, the depth is perfect as far as I am concerned. You already came this far, and the positioning of the drains in your case is not crucial if you maintain your 20 degree slope. With maybe an inlet/jet far below surface level on both sides(apart from surface inlets), I believe the two drains will be sufficient at the current positions. These inlets can push debris to the bottom drains apart from other advantages of mid-bottom inlets. One towards the left drain and one on the opposite side towards the right drain. It will also create a nice circulation and current for bodyshape.
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DAVID
Posts: 63 Join date: 2009-02-19 Age: 43 Location: WITPOORTJIE ROODEPOORT S.A
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:35 am | |
| Is this what you mean about the inlets? At the top of the slop just as it becomes vertical. Below the water. Were should the skimmer be?  |
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Admin Admin

Posts: 1283 Join date: 2007-07-25 Location: Cape Town
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:58 am | |
| I would do it something like this:  Swimmingpool aimflows on the mid bottom inlets towards the bottom. Nice thing about them is you can play around with the direction of the flow. They are very cheap at R 27.00 each. The skimmer should be on the side where the wind normally blows towards. |
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DAVID
Posts: 63 Join date: 2009-02-19 Age: 43 Location: WITPOORTJIE ROODEPOORT S.A
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:49 am | |
| Thanks for the drawing. Can you explain how you made the drawing and posted it on the forum? I had the same idea about the skimmer thanks a lot will keep you posted on the progress. |
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Pieter J de Villiers

Posts: 581 Join date: 2007-09-17 Age: 58 Location: Krugersdorp, Gauteng,South Africa
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:20 am | |
| Hi, Should the water flow not be anticlockwise, as we are in the Southern hemisphere? |
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cam0
Posts: 211 Join date: 2009-03-06
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:41 am | |
| Lol, i've never thought of that... |
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DAVID
Posts: 63 Join date: 2009-02-19 Age: 43 Location: WITPOORTJIE ROODEPOORT S.A
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:35 pm | |
| Can someone tell me why salt is added when building a pond? a. concrete b. building mix c. plaster |
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Marius Bezuidenhout

Posts: 494 Join date: 2009-01-29 Age: 43 Location: Bloem but currently Mbeya/Tanzania
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:12 pm | |
| They say it extends the lifetime of the cement and it also seals of water entering the cement. Even when they build bridges in the sea they mix salt into cement. I mix cement and salt and paint that as last layer on the pond |
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DAVID
Posts: 63 Join date: 2009-02-19 Age: 43 Location: WITPOORTJIE ROODEPOORT S.A
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:00 am | |
| I will use salt in the plaster mix. what ratio should i use? |
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Pieter J de Villiers

Posts: 581 Join date: 2007-09-17 Age: 58 Location: Krugersdorp, Gauteng,South Africa
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:03 am | |
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Marius Bezuidenhout

Posts: 494 Join date: 2009-01-29 Age: 43 Location: Bloem but currently Mbeya/Tanzania
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:09 am | |
| I see that the people on forum say that you must use 25kg salt per 50kg cement. To finish it off, I take a 5L ice-cream container and mix half salt and half cement with water and 'paint' it over the plaster. It gives a crinkle cut finish and then I paint if with black 'waterblok' paint. The small algae love to grow on the slightly uneven surface when your pond starts to settle. |
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DAVID
Posts: 63 Join date: 2009-02-19 Age: 43 Location: WITPOORTJIE ROODEPOORT S.A
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:41 am | |
| Peter do you dissolve the salt before mixing then add to plaster mix? Ratio; 4, wheelbarrows sand. 1, bag cement. 1, 25kg salt. |
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Admin Admin

Posts: 1283 Join date: 2007-07-25 Location: Cape Town
 | Subject: Re: MY FIRST POND Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:02 am | |
| | DAVID wrote: | | Can you explain how you made the drawing and posted it on the forum? |
I just use the paint program available under accessories.
You must dissolve the salt to prevent air pockets. I add water to my concrete mixer, then salt, let it run a while and then add the sand and cement(and I add sikalite)

Another very good Sika product for ponds is Cemflex but more expensive.
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