Pieter, im not sure how this misunderstanding happend but im sticking to what i wrote.

Feel free to phone me.

Wayne

Hi Paul,

Many thanks for the reply.

I do beg to diasgree with you on destroying all remaining koi - especially if you are a hobbyist and do not intend to sell on and especially if you have one positive test and one negative test in a collection. I also wonder if the KHV tests are 100% accurate and I wonder what the chances of contamination of samples are.

I will email the guys in the USA who have been doing some research into this virus. I know some guys are beginning to suspect that the virus is dormant in a host e.g. inside microorganisms in the slugde for example. Much the same as the swine flu going around at the moment. This virus also has intermediaries out side of the human body.

But lets see what they have come across in the States and take it to the debating table on the 30th.

If the meeting at the end of the month takes place and there is anything you would like to add please email Maria-Anna Botha.

I also believe we should not lose sight of the fact that there are lots of other things that can affect our koi collections, not only KHV.

It would be great to get common ground amongst enthusiasts and dealers. Lets see how this develops.

Regards,
Chris

Hi Paul,

Just an after thought ..... so many thoughts .... my mind has not stopped after the great dog food debate of 2009 .......

If the koi keeper purchases a koi from a dealer and his koi get KHV how come other koi keepers who buy from the same dealer and the same tank /system do not get KHV?

If KHV were that virulent and if KHV did infect all koi in close contact or the same system we would see more collections being wiped out as we did when this virus was first identified in 1996 (I think it was).

The more questions I ask and the more circumstances I come across the more I am awed at nature (and humans).

Kind regards,
Chris

Hi ..... another thought .....

If there is anyone on this forum who has a question or has positive suggestions regarding the proposed Emergency Response National committee then please email me directly with your ideas. Alternatively send then to the SAKKS secretary.

I will certainly bring them up for discussion.

Chris

I feel i need to clarify this again. Maria Anna Botha's email has nothing todo with the KHV issue that i was following up in private.

The Facts:

1. Bobby and myself requested a updated membership list from Maria Anna Botha for a koi show meeting held on Thursday evening the 14th at 7pm. We received her email at 16:21 on Thurday before our meeting.

2. This is an extract from our show meeting where bobby used maria annas email.

Quote:

3. The most important aspect and challenge to us all would be to increase SAKKS membership in the Western Cape. 4. I am of the opinion that as many as possible members should gather for a social one a month to discuss policy and procedures and also spend time to share Koi experiences with one another. I am sure we all can learn from Ernst and Johan and we can also at the same time learn from someone’s experience on how not to do something and save ourselves lots of agony. 5. Should members be prepared to drive to Malmesbury, I am willing to open my home and to sponsor snacks for such a gathering around my settlement chamber.

3. Friday morning at 09:52 i was phoned by concerned friend regarding the KHV issue in Gauteng. This was the first word i heard regarding the matter. At 11:20 i decided to phone pieter to try and get confirmation as he is usualy upto date with all things koi.

The sole reason for Maria Anna sending us the name list was for the sole reason to try and increase the membership in the western cape. She is unable to filter he database and so we received the complete SAKKS membership list by accident.

Between Bobby, Maria-Anna and myself no KHV discussion took place. Any suggestion that anything else was the reason for sending the name list is not factual.

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Hi Marius,

Point noted.

This is a big problem in the koi industry. It results in Mr & Mrs average koi keeper often receiving incorrect or bad information with regards sick koi.

How to over come this is the question. Also how to assist koi keepers through the learning curve we all go through. Even after 30 years in the game you are still on a learning curve.

Just a thought - my personal opinion - I believe too much emphasis is placed on sick koi. We sometimes look for problems that are not there. Yes sometimes koi do become ill. And yes sometimes problems are introduced through new additions.

If the environment is good then in most cases the koi should be alive and healthy for a long time.

Regards,
Chris

27 May 2009



Dear All,

A meeting has called as we felt we needed to discuss the KHV and other health related issues for the long term, in other words setting up an "Emergency Response committee" that is experienced to assist where necessary, each having roles and responsibilities and making it clear to the Koi community what processes to follow and who to call when the need arises.

We simply are calling it an "Emergency Response Committee" because should any Koi member have a problem they would need immediate assistance.

This initial idea has been discussed among various members and dealers and it was felt that it would be a good idea to keep our hobby healthy and strong for the future and for all to prosper.

We have been gathering information internationally to increase our understanding of health issues and once openly discussed through meetings / e-mails and or phone calls we will reach a consensus on how the "Emergency Response Committee" can serve the Koi community.

We do not want to rush this process and we still await some information and for this reason we have decided to postpone the meeting which means we will not have our intended meeting for the 30th May at LGX Monte Casino.

I also think with the Rugby finals being played at the same it may be a relief to most.

We will keep you well informed of the new intended date and venue.

Assuring you of our best support at all times

Regards

Kevin Till

SAKKS - National Chairman